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I have been reading a book about the history of Israel. One section was about people refusing to serve the army when Israel fought war in Libanon and Gaza because they didn't agree with cruelties the Israel army conducted/ accepted. It made me think about the other way around: What if your country is attacked and people are being called to service by the army, would an anarchist refuse out of principle?

Quite some anarchist reject the idea of a centralized army so an anarchist might refuse out of principle. On the other hand, your country is being attacked. You can argue that accepting service is accepted because it is different from invading another country because you now have to defend your own country.

What are your thoughts on this?

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[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 months ago

Like others have said in this thread, it depends on the circumstances.

In addition to that, I would say that the way I think of my own anarchism means that I don't hold myself to strict standards because I'm not trying to build an anarchy, but more anarchists. By that, I mean that in practice, the world is quite far off from being an anarchist world and that if I were to adhere to dogmatic principles, I wouldn't make much progress.

It's a lot less drastic than fighting in the military, but an example of one of the compromises I make is that I have done some activism at the local level regarding access to health and social care services (including accessible housing). I don't necessarily think that these functions are best fulfilled by the state, but also, I can't envision a world without the state (in this domain at least). But also, I don't feel bad about my failure of imagination, because anarchism, for me, is about letting go of grand narratives about myself and the world, recognising that I am such a tiny part of the bigger picture and that I can't do this alone. Along those lines, it's a pragmatic choice to push for better socialised services, even if that means enlarging the state, because it'll help give voices to people who I want to have a say in the world.

It doesn't feel like a compromising of my principles, but a more genuine way of honouring them. Something I like about anarchism is that it's messy, and it's a process. As a framework, it's helped me to grow a lot, and I feel like I need to be open to situations that challenge my principles because I know I'm a better anarchist now than I was a year ago, and dogmatically sticking to certain rules or principles would feel like I have decided I am currently the best I'll ever be. So even though I don't like the thought of it, I need to be open to the principle of having to fight, if it were necessary, as well as possible needing to resist fighting (like Israelis who would rather be imprisoned than be complicit).