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“I used to have about four controllers retire a day before the shutdown. I’m now up to 15 to 20 a day are retiring,” Duffy told CNN’s Jake Tapper on “State of the Union.” “So, it’s going to be harder for me to come back after the shutdown and have more controllers controlling the airspace.”

“So, this is going to live on in air travel, well beyond the time frame that this government opens back up.”

Air traffic controllers are set to miss their second consecutive paycheck on Tuesday, with many missing work and taking second jobs. Duffy added that 81 controller staffing shortages were reported at facilities across the country on Saturday, an increase of 20 such instances relative to Oct. 31.

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 84 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (14 children)

Hmm, I think even 4 retiring every day seems to be a lot....

I guess there are over 14,000 controllers normally, so if 20 retire a week that's a turnover of about 1000 per year, or about 7%, just through retirement. That seems high.

But at 20 a day, we might have run through that number just during the shutdown.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 79 points 2 days ago (7 children)

It is high for a normal workforce, but the ATC pool has been greying for a long time because of a mix of neglect and mismanagement like we’re seeing right now.

Reagan made it a shitty place to work and Trump is stiffing them while taking away food stamps.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What was the movie? Tin something?

[–] nixon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago

Pushing Tin?

Tin Cup was the golf movie with Kevin Costner, right?

[–] dickalan@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

It had Billy Bob Thornton in it, I'm sure you can find it out with that information, I can't fucking remember either but it did start with the word TIN

I just looked it up it's pushing tin

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 1 points 13 hours ago

"you land 10,000 airplanes safely on the ground and no one notices. You land one in the air and they never forget." Or something like that

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yep. Was it also John Cusack?

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

And Angelina Jolie.

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