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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago (6 children)

how did canada lose it before the US?

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We have our own population of anti-vax morons.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

started by jenny mccarthney, started the movement at least, rather strange jim and her stop promoting it after 2015. thats why it used to be mostly midwestern white women.

[–] SGGeorwell@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

And thank Oprah for platforming Jenny’s nonsense.

[–] rozodru@pie.andmc.ca 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

In Ontario and Alberta we have a lot, like seriously a lot, of really dumb people. Anti-Vaxers, Maple MAGAs, etc. Ever wanted to see the Confederate flag flown in the most Northern part of the continent possible? cool, go to Dryden Ontario.

84% of the cases came from these places.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ever wanted to see the Confederate flag flown in the most Northern part of the continent possible? cool, go to Dryden Ontario.

Fuuuuuck, that's next-level stupid. I remember some stupid redneck I had the displeasure of knowing had one hanging up in his room in Pennsylvania. I asked him if he knew he was born and also now living ABOVE the Mason-Dixon line and WTF is that flag even hanging up there for?

Dude stared at me like a dog trying to comprehend calculus. Mumbled something about "heritage". I asked what that could even mean since he was born in York, PA.

But FFS, flying that traitorous flag of losers up in Canada? What. The. Actual. Fuck.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Saw it walking in a small town in the Netherlands, once. Disconcerting.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

you'll find that brain rot anywhere Murdoch's disease reaches

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

This was back in the early 90s. I'm assuming now that Republicans like Pedonald and Nick Fuentes are now going mask-off with their fascism, and creating a permission structure for assholes, wingers are probably upping the ante to show how "edgy" they are. Back then flying a Confederate flag north of the Mason-Dixon line was just a way of signaling what a dickhead you are w/o just putting up a swastika outright, because it had deniability, at least to other assholes and the rather clueless ("heritage", lol).

But now, I would not be surprised if a few dickheads are putting up a few swastikas now because the flag of Southern losers is probably quite basic bitch stuff.

In the Netherlands, I'm assuming flying that flag was much the same kind of reverse-virtue signaling. I know parts of Europe also (used to?) ban Nazi things, so I'm assuming this was a way of not violating the law, while still showing what a tool you are.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

I knew alberta was full of rednecks, but it saddens me to hear that the province of the capital, ontario is also full of them too.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A large part is people find it difficult to get vaccinated (whether that’s the case or not), and then a wedding super spreader event got it into the Mennonite population who boosted the numbers by a lot.

For the difficulty you don’t have to go to a doctor, but people don’t know that. The wait time to see doctors is high and a ton of people can’t get a family doctor. Then a lot of places don’t have a vaccination location within a 40 minute drive, so they don’t do it for the hassle. And they stopped enforcing measles vaccination for kids in school during COVID.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

And they stopped enforcing measles vaccination for kids in school during COVID.

fucking hell

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

ALberta has a huge number of cases recently.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Mennonite cult.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works -4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It didn’t. There have been outbreaks in various states since the summer

Edit: I was incorrect:

A country is considered to have endemic measles if there has been uninterrupted transmission from a single outbreak of the virus that has lasted 12 months or longer

source

[–] DrBob@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

We did. We have religious communities who are very anti-vax in Saskatchewan and Alberta. They are insular but travel between communities for weddings and funerals and disease spreads. 5000 cases in the last couple years.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Would be cool if our two governments could function correctly and either quarantine those communities or do force vaccines. Fuck this nut jobs, take the jab and shut the fuck up.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I assume attempting to quarantine native communities is a political minefield. On one hand, you're risk empowering the cunts that would extend the "quarantine" beyond medical reasons. On the other, you'd have people jumping at the chance to tear you up over your imprisoning the native peoples and forcing your culture on them instead of respecting their callous disregard for disease prevention.

It would be the rational thing to do, but politics isn't strictly rational.

[–] DrBob@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Hutterites in the West. First Nations have pretty good vac rates. There is a separate federal health system that handles public health for First Nations.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago

kagis

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g8d39gdr0o

Kimie is one of more than 3,800 in Canada who have been infected with measles in 2025, most of them children and infants. That figure is nearly three times higher than the number of confirmed US cases, despite Canada's far smaller population.

Now Canada is the only western country listed among the top 10 with measles outbreaks, according to CDC data, ranking at number eight. Alberta, the province at the epicentre of the current outbreak, has the highest per capita measles spread rate in North America.

The data raises questions on why the virus is spreading more rapidly in Canada than in the US, and whether Canadian health authorities are doing enough to contain it.

The hardest-hit provinces have been Ontario and Alberta, followed by Manitoba.

In Ontario, health authorities say the outbreak began in late 2024, when an individual contracted measles at a large Mennonite gathering in New Brunswick and then returned home.

Mennonites are a Christian group with roots in 16th-Century Germany and Holland, who have since settled in other parts of the world, including Canada, Mexico and the US.

Some live modern lifestyles, while conservative groups lead simpler lives, limiting the use of technology and relying on modern medicine only when necessary.

Ms Friesen noted that Canada has a higher concentration of conservative Low German-speaking Mennonites than the US, which may be a factor behind the higher number of cases.