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A lot of people wear speedmasters because the Apollo astronauts wore them. This is mostly in jest, but if people really wanted to emulate those Apollo astronaut icons, they would choose the most practical options which would be quartz watches, not mechanical watches. They'd be brighter, have better battery, keep better time, more durable, etc

But in seriousness, I totally respect the history and craftsmanship of these watches, just not their practicality in modern day.

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[–] RangerGripp@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Stupid fucking take.

The watches of yesteryears were that time’s G-shocks etc.

Getting a tool that is 100 years from the future?

Yea I’ll take it.

[–] UsefulSchism@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, and they would’ve used machine guns at the Alamo if they were available. What’s your point exactly besides an unoriginal cold take?

[–] skyfish111@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

“Nice” watches are jewelry and hobby

[–] lasttycoon@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I mean there are more Casios on the ISS than Omegas.

[–] Awkward-Sale4235@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

facts!! no need fir any deeper analysis and or discussions 🤷🏼‍♂️

[–] PlantSkyRun@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Not even a lukewarm take.

[–] JustDoc@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Counterpoint - there's a reason why many airplanes, race cars, and ships still rely on mechanical instrumentation or have a mechanical secondary.

[–] Secure-Marionberry80@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Hot take: the speedmaster is the most overrated watch of all time.

[–] smokelaw@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

So many people are missing the point here

[–] Reddit_BPT_Is_Racist@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

They would wear the watch that they are given to promote. Same as today.

[–] rb4osh@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I’m curating a value stack of basic watches.

Basically, field, sport, dress, and workout.

I have the field but more and more I look at it and think “this should be a G shock”

If I ever go camping/skiing/whatever else, I want a g shock.

[–] space_coyote_86@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If lighters existed 5000 years ago people wouldn't have had to rub sticks together.

[–] Proton189@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah right 🤦‍♂️

[–] allgonetoshit@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I just want to say that people who are over 40 grew up when everyone wore a watch. And, you know, in the 80s, everyone wore a digital Timex or Casio or Seiko or whatever. There is a LOT of revisionist history from Rolex fanboys of all ages and a lot of younger people who simply did not experience the watch world pre-mobile phones. Sure, there was always people wearing super high end dress watches, but that's ALL that high end watches have been for a LONG time. Those divers, sports watches, GMTs, whatever are all dress watches and have been just dress watches since the 90s, probably the 80s for most people too.

I don't care what the overweight Rolex fanboy that dives 2 times a year in Cancun with his Sea Dweller. Serious divers use dive computers. Hikers, rock climbers, explorers use Garmins, Apple watches, etc. People exploring caves have watches with backlighting, etc.

It's all dress watches, all just dress watches.

[–] poochunks@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Ice cold take my man. A hotter take would be water is wet.

[–] pablete_@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Hot take: If G shocks existed 2075+ years ago, all the Romans, Egyptians, and Persians would have used them instead of sun clocks, hour glasses and crowing roosters

[–] Tessst1@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

was that lvl of technology even capable back then?

thats like saying, if flying cars exists today everyone would be using them. no shit sherlock. more like a braindead take.

[–] xPhilip@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This is mostly in jest, but if people really wanted to emulate those Apollo astronaut icons, they would choose the most practical options which would be quartz watches, not mechanical watches

But emulating them would mean that they should get exactly/as close to what they actually used though right? That would be the Speedmaster.

Its not emulating them if you choose something they didn't use.

[–] 33manat33@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If G-Shocks had existed at that time, the technology inside would probably have revolutionized computing. Such early advances in miniaturization and LCD technology would probably have led to an earlier development of microcomputers and ultimately personal computers in consumer homes.

The Apollo mission computer had a 32 kb hard disk. It weighed 30 kg and was ungodly expensive. A Casio PF-3000 calculator released in 83 (same year as the G-Shock) had a 2.9 kb storage capacity in a unit that weighed a few grams and was powered by a little battery. And it probably had a lot of processing power in comparison. I tried to find specs for the Databank watches, but I couldn't find it spelled out in kb. It's safe to say that G-Shock level electronics could have had a huge impact on computing at the time.

[–] bartread@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

And a DW-5600 would now cost about £8000 and retail and £12-15k on the used market like a Rolex Submariner. On the plus side, I'd be able to pick up a Submariner for cheap. Sad that I do not live in your alternative universe.

[–] drinkallthecoffee@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

They would have and they do now.

[–] MotherAd1865@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If running water existed in Medieval times, everyone would have used it... If cars existed in the 1800s, no one would have used horses... If gun powder had existed, no one would have used arrows... Thanks Sherlock!!!

[–] BigTimeFartGuy69@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Just imagine if the Apple Watch existed 75+ years ago.

[–] karma3000@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hot take: People who post about G Shocks being more practical than Speedmasters are really just salty that they can't afford a Speedmaster.

[–] Pizzadontdie@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

While I mostly agree, I do think some people just love G shocks. I own a few and it’s fun to have a beater that can take on just about anything you put it through.

[–] Tae-gun@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

There's actually a good chance they wouldn't have. Concerns about electromagnetic radiation, actual radiation, battery life, and the general size/shape of G-Shocks (i.e. difficulties with suits/gloves and uniforms, getting caught on untamed undergrowth) would be legitimate reasons for many people in high-intensity employment (e.g. divers, astronauts, pilots, military personnel) to choose smaller watches.

With regards to your "extension" of your argument (i.e. if people today wanted to be like the astronauts of the past, they'd use the pinnacle of the technology available to them, i.e. G-Shocks), that makes a number of assumptions that in some cases are factually incorrect or neglect field-specific considerations, some of which I pointed out in the previous paragraph.

Divers, for instance, do use the pinnacle of technology available to them - dive computers. Astronauts probably have suit concerns when considering watch size/bulk. Modern-day commercial pilots also use the pinnacle of technology available to them, which is the computers built into their aircraft.

As for G-Shocks and quartz watches in general being the pinnacle of horological technology, that's a majorly subjective position, and one open to all kinds of debate. Your argument also assumes that people in the present day, especially in high-intensity fields, wear watches for mostly practical reasons (hint: they do not; the watch is a convenient timekeeping device and a piece of functional jewelry, but in the practice of many fields, not just the high-intensity ones we discuss here, they are not an essential piece of equipment).

[–] ginbooth@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

But it would it be the full metal G-Shock, yeah? Asking for a friend...

[–] icantfindfree@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

And if my grandma had wheels she'd been a bike. What the fuck are you on about

[–] CruffTheMagicDragon@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Of course. What is even your point frankly?

[–] ThisIsREM@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Commercial Pilots would still use Rolex, its effectively an office job where you sit all day and then use your watch to impress the stewardesses.

[–] ivanyufen@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

i think people that boast about spec on their automatic watch, talk about it and compare them with another mechanical watches. No sane person would compare their mechanical watch to a quartz/solar/smartwatch (unless about history or aesthetic)

[–] davedrave@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

They definitely would yeah. It's a bit like with guitars, people pay over the top amounts for electric guitars built to be exactly like the originals in the 50s-60s.

An example of this is the paint. The more expensive guitars today have the same type of paint as.these older era guitars. The irony is that this paint is arguably weaker and more prone to cracking than the newer paints. People like the paint for the cracking that will come in time, and arguably for the greater tone it provides (which I personally don't buy into.)

You can get a newer cheaper guitar with arguably superior wiring, paint, frets etc than an original, but the cheaper guitar wasn't the exact type played by Jimi Hendrix.

(For the record I do like both modern and old guitars, and G shock and mechanical watches)

[–] Astrower5@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Gshock might as well be one of the official watches of the military. I work with aviators, I have friends that are submariners, I know military divers and pararescue, etc. Everyone wears either a gshock or a smart watch, and the most popular smart watch is by far the apple watch.

I personally wear a gshock at work because I can't have technology, and a Garmin smart watch everywhere else. I only put on my nicer, "dressier", watches on weekends or for events.

[–] A_G00SE@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Made yourself look a bit silly here

[–] eldonsarte@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

And if my grandma had wheels, she'd be a bike.

[–] grygrx@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] Batchagaloop@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, but what if your battery ran out in space?

[–] radio248@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Why do so many people here not understand OPs principle?

Basically: on paper GShocks are better in every possible way for keeping time - these boundary pushing people would have wanted that over any mechanical watch.

[–] unkytone@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I love my bulova astronauts. Both for the design and history.

[–] Phil_PhilConners@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

What you've just posted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this subreddit is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

[–] Raidicus@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I thought they preferred automatic mechanical watches so that there was no potential for a dead battery, and would work under more conditions.

[–] KurtRussellsMullet@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If medieval knights had access to AK-47s they definitely would have used them over swords just saying

[–] ProfessionalMockery@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

"This is a 16th century Lithuanian saber carried by their cavalry officers at the time."

"Yeah but they'd definitely use an assault rifle if they had those. Why not get an assault rifle?"

[–] Burnerplumes@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

To qualify my reply, I’m a former Navy strike fighter pilot.

I’m admittedly not a huge watch buff. Got a couple $3000+ watches, but nothing crazy. I would never fly with anything that does not glow constantly—which rules out most digital/LCD watches.

I tried flying with digital watches, but it was frustrating at night. When you’re flying, you need to be able to just glance at your watch—most watches with LCD displays require you press a button to illuminate them—this is a problem when you’re flying in formation, in the clouds, at night. You do not want to take your hands off the controls. Bad things follow.

I settled on an analog watch with tritium glow for the hours and both hands. An analog watch with large hands is also easier to scan quickly than a small digital display. I can glance and know the time, day or night.

I also want something robust that will remain in place during a high-speed ejection. Ejections often result in the loss of visors, entire helmets, gear from survival vests, and watches with flimsy bands.

A metal case and band watch with tritium fits the bill.

Lastly, this is something that most people don’t think about. But if you’re ever in an evasion scenario post-ejection where you need to pay off a local to hide/transport you, an expensive watch is like carrying many hundred to a few thousand dollars in cash on your wrist. Your time piece is a bargaining chip, and a G-Shock isn’t going to carry nearly the same weight.

When you are operating in truly unforgiving environments, there is far more to a time piece than its ability to keep accurate time.

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[–] movet22@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

'hot take: people use the best technology reasonably available to them.'

[–] watchwatcherwatchest@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

People forget that the quartz crisis was called a crisis in the swiss watch industry for a reason. They had to go into overdrive with marketing to keep these watches relevant.

[–] PILOT9000@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Nope. I still wouldn’t wear a G Shock.

[–] dannymurz@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Well ... Duh. 🤦 That's like saying if computers existed a hundred years ago, I bet they totally would have used them!

[–] emartinoo@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Hot take: If Google maps existed 600+ years ago, explorers would have used it instead of relying on the stars and dead reckoning.

[–] Future-Ad-2349518@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I guess all you really need is a G-Shock and a dress watch.

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