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Minnesota’s Democratic Party Revokes Endorsement of Mayoral Candidate (www.nytimes.com)
submitted 3 months ago by goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org to c/politics@lemmy.world
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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

So...

Couple things:

  1. This was a city chapter, not the state party

  2. They don't have primaries, they have runoff voting at a convention for the endorsement

  3. There was technical issues which resulted in third place being taken off the ballot early, along with other issues.

The result of all that:

In the end, Mr. Fateh prevailed in a vote conducted late at night through a show of badges on the Minneapolis chapter’s convention floor, rather than in a traditional balloting.

On Thursday, state party officials took the unusual step of placing the city’s Democratic Party on probation for two years. The city’s Democratic Party has organized several conventions in recent years that resulted in disputed outcomes. Some have ended in violence.

What would a better result be?

Obviously "dont fuck up the election" would have been better, but for people upset about how it was rectified, how would you have solved it. And how would your result be different?

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They did it after donors started saying revoke it or give our money back.

https://minneapolimedia.town.news/g/coon-rapids-mn/n/332273/minnesota-dfl-withdraws-endorsement-omar-fateh-minneapolis-mayoral-race

The endorsement revocation has sparked significant controversy within the party. Fateh condemned the decision, alleging influence from out-of-state party officials and donors, including supporters of incumbent Mayor Jacob Frey, and criticized what he described as attempts to undermine his candidacy.

Former Minneapolis City Council Member Lisa Goodman reportedly stated during an “All of Mpls” (Frey PAC) call that she is withholding contributions from DFL donors, particularly at the $5,000 level and above, unless the party’s endorsement of Fateh is reinstated. She indicated that donors are uncomfortable contributing to the DFL if Fateh remains the endorsed candidate, and she has permission to process withheld donations should the endorsement be reversed.

The move has drawn criticism from prominent Democrats, including Representative Ilhan Omar, who, along with other party officials, described the revocation as a “stain on our party.” They warned that the decision could deepen divisions between centrist Democrats and democratic socialists, potentially hampering the party’s cohesion and future electoral prospects.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

So...

A super Pac said they'd withhold money. That doesn't change the part immediately before your quote:

The decision comes after a state party review of the convention’s voting process revealed “substantial failures,” including issues with the electronic voting system that resulted in an undercount of 176 votes and the improper elimination of candidate DeWayne Davis. These flaws were deemed serious enough to nullify the convention’s results, according to the Pioneer Press and local reporting. As a consequence, the Minneapolis DFL has been placed on a two-year probation and must implement corrective measures for future conventions.

This is Hogg all over again...

The internal election was fucked up, and instead of ignoring that, the party invalidated it.

Do you have any idea how long some of us have not only waited but pushed for a non biased party like this?

This was always the goal. And of course we weren't going to get to this point till progressives was becoming the dominant faction in the party. Neoliberals cheated right up to the day they got the boot, so by the time we have non biased parties, it's gonna look like the same old bias if you're not paying attention.

And billionaires not wanting to talk about progress makes it pretty hard to pay attention

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is still them being biases but using the rules to do it for them.

She indicated that donors are uncomfortable contributing to the DFL if Fateh remains the endorsed candidate, and she has permission to process withheld donations should the endorsement be reversed.

We're again at we'll take our money away unless you remove the problem

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This is still them being biases but using the rules to do it for them.

No. This is the party following the rules.

When neoliberals we're winning, biased parties wouldn't listen to complaints.

Now in the places they're not running things, progressives are winning. Which means the person complaining is the neoliberal who just lost.

If you think we should tell them to kick rocks and now we're going to be corrupt just like neoliberals were...

It won't take very many election cycles before corrupt politicians start winning primaries again.

The only way a neoliberal wins a primary is if it's biased. Keeping them unbiased may result in some speed bumps like this, but it still results in progressives going to the general and winning.

I just don't see any logical reason to be against how this was handled. Just purely emotional reasons that in the long run will hurt all of us.

Quick edit:

We’re again at we’ll take our money away unless you remove the problem

If you're going to check your mailbox and a crackhead says he's your king and he demands you check the mail...

Would you not check the mail because a crazy person told you to do something you were literally already doing?

Cuz again, I don't see any logic behind that decision

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

What would a better result be?

Redo the vote properly, and this time actually count all the ballots.