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[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

[Dark skinned] Europeans fear public spaces due to ~~illegal migration~~ [racism stoked by migration fear mongering].

[–] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I actually hate going to German cities on weekends recently because of the AfD booths everywhere and their instigators. There’s always trouble brewing around those and I don’t wanna be near them - unfortunately they are everywhere lately.

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

:( That sucks.

[–] Waldelfe@feddit.org 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So I'm already fourty and I clearly remember all the fuss in the 90s here in Germany about women not being safe. Now mind you, this was way before any major immigration wave. And the various talks I got from parents and teachers and what I heard in the media was mostly "Men are dangerous, women should never trust a strange man". In hindsight it feels very panicky and over the top how I was told everywhere "Don't trust a strange man. Don't talk to a strange man."

Everywhere was supposedly dangerous. Going to the big city for a day? Well, if you stay past a certain time, you're just asking to be assaulted. If you go to a certain distric you can't complain later when something happens to you. My brother was allowed more freedom because "we're sorry but this is how it is and the world is less save for you as a girl".

Now the funny thing is, back in the 90s when we hardly had any major immigration and certainly no big discourse about it as far as I was aware the narrative was "Well, women should know better than to go to certain places and be out past a certain time. That's just how the world works. Suck it up, buttercup." Feminists who stood up and spread the message that - actually - women should be able to feel safe in the big city center, even in the evening, were ridiculed. You can't change the world! Live with it. That's just how it is. Men are dangerous and so many want to harm you, that's just human nature. You won't change that.

Well, anyway, the same people who'd tell me "The world is just more dangerous for women, stay at home, avoid certain places, don't stay out late and don't complain about it, you won't change it" 30 years ago are now suddenly up in arms and "fighting for women's safety in public places". Funny how that works. All it took for the 'evil, delusional feminists' to be taken seriously was a bit of immigration and a bunch of racism. Who knew.

Also, and I don't think I have to mention it, but a lot of crime statistics are actually down and such. However, a lot more things are being criminalized such as sexual harrassment which in the 90s noone gave a fuck about. Got called a sexual slur and aggressively asked for sex? Well, what were you doing outside in that part of town at that hour anyway. What did you expect would happen if you, as a woman, go to certain places? Nowadays you actually can go to the police about this stuff.

Sorry for the rant, it just makes me so so angry having grown up with this narrative of "men will touch you and hurt you and rape you any chance they get and it's on you to stay away from them" that NOW all of a sudden they change the narrative when it suits them to spread their racism.

[–] remon@ani.social 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Now mind you, this was way before any major immigration wave.

Actually, this was right after a major immigration wave following the fall of the iron curtain.

[–] Waldelfe@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago

That is true. Maybe I didn't notice because I was a teenager and from a small town. I don't remember immigration being a big point of discussion until some turkish migrants came to our town in the early 2000s. Men being dangerous was never tied to their nationality, it was just "all men".

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can't he just switch to the AFD?

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

AfD don't want his fake ass, they'll replace his party in the next election.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's going to be an AfD+CDU coalition.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Eh, even the Nazis needed Center Party collaborators to get a governing coalition. I suspect it'll be the same with the AfD and CDU.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Could be. I'm just watching the rate at which the AfD is growing in the polls and it makes me think they may not need them.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Merz is a racist and a compulsive liar.

[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 10 points 1 week ago

He is picking up far-right talking points and it is completely obvious that this will only help the far-right AfD, while diminuishing votes for his party, CDU. And I have a hard time believing he does not know that.

The anti-fascist and democratic founders of our republic - the people who have fought Nazis - would be so enraged, they would be rotating in their graves as we say.

[–] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 10 points 1 week ago

No I don’t

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is the same guy who said that Israel was doing his dirty job, right?

So, at this point can we please drop the pretense that this is the "center right"? This is an extremist far right chancellor.