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[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I imagine Greek Democracy was something as nonsensical yet consequential as crypto, commoners just being like, ‘there goes that wealthy mechant Tsimikas family doing their bullshit song and dance again. Just be governor no one cares’

[–] VoxAliorum@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I really like the idea of randomly elected representatives. Sure, they will try to better their situation for afterwards but with enough corruption control (which is probably easier to implement), this will only ensure that they support their kind of workers a bit more than the rest.

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[–] School_Lunch@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (18 children)

I struggle to find the points in your posts. Yes capitalism has a great many problems. I agree about doing something about it, but are you also suggesting democracy is bad?

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[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 7 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Which greek philosophers said that? and what did they say? do you have any sources to confirm?

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[–] adrianmalacoda@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

Arrested Development was literally a satire of the Bush family/administration, whom are now being rehabilitated by usonian liberals.

[–] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago

If Mamdani wins and keeps his mandate strong to the point that opposition to him is career suicide, he can implement some amazing improvements.

Bernie's success in Burlington was never going to translate to broader America, but NYC is hard to ignore.

The real test will be what Democrats do nationwide in response to a Mayor Mamdani administration. If they do the same old New Democrat/Third Way bullshit they've been doing since Bill Clinton won* in 1992, they'll continue to be irrelevant in the face of populist hucksters like Trump.

keep in mind that Socrates might not have been as nice as you think, his students ended up doing a coup and their government collapsed in 8 months, their reign was so violent that ended in about the death of 10% of Athens. The tyrants run away amd they put Socrates on trial, and in his defense, Socrates refused to denounce his disciplines and just said it was a whitch hunt because they are mad that he is smarter than everyone else.

So, Socrates might have been more of a Reactionary grifter like Peterson than a wise kind humble man.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago

Let's not muddy the waters...the orange turd we can't name is the type of ism we don't want ever again. We also don't want George Bush or another repeat of any of the political families currently in power or their friends. We want direct vote not college vote. WTF is an electoral college doing now that we have communication technology? Its an old and stupid idea.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 points 1 month ago

The Liberals got wrecked so hard Peter Dutton lost his seat.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Democracy has as a necessary precondition that people are intelligent enough to differentiate good candidates from bad candidates.

The real question therefore is whether the people are intelligent enough. That decides their fate.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 month ago

Democracy has as a necessary precondition that people are intelligent enough to differentiate good candidates from bad candidates.

This is just fundamentally impossible, 99.9% of people only relation to candidates is what they see in social media or other ads. People really have no idea who they're choosing and its entirely a vibes based decision, i.e. candidate A speaks elocuently, candidate B is charming, etc...

[–] mad_lentil@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would replace intelligent with well educated, at least

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have come to dislike the word "education" as it refers to plato's cave analogy in such a way that somebody else leads you out of it.

"Education" is therefore not something that you do yourself, but that somebody else does on you. It is therefore objectifying and puts the humans in a passive position.

Meanwhile, "insight" or "inspiration" is something that you do yourself as it is you who brings up the interest to learn something. Therefore it is a much better word.

[–] mad_lentil@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah I kind of didn't like that word as I was writing it. Similar to how "tutoring" literally means to "straighten" or basically to inculcate to normativity.

Meanwhile, “insight” or “inspiration” is something that you do yourself [...]

Good edit, this is a better word choice.

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

We need a digital liquid democracy platform. We have the technology and infrastructure for it now, and it’s time for the people to rule themselves.

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