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Confirmed: ICE Is Arresting American Citizens—and Lying About It (newrepublic.com)
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[–] CreativeShotgun@lemmy.world 121 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I am american, moreso than most realistically. My family has been texan since before even texas was american. I am brown and have a Latin last name, there's a ton of us the same here in texas. In my family the generation before me was the last that inherited spanish from the family and none are fluent (texmex spanglish at best), at least not without schooling.

This is all to say that my drivers license is on me at all times outside of my house. I carry it everywhere, even on my smoke breaks at work, even when I'm washing my car, even when I'm checking my mail.

I shouldn't be living like this, I don't deserve to live like this, my rights as an American citizen say I should be protected against this, but here we are.

[–] SoloCritical@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The thing is, unfortunately, they’ll call your drivers license fake and disappear you all the same if their app says you’re not legal. Apparently their facial recognition app is never wrong and no matter what documentation you may have on you at the time, if the app says you’re going on a plane to El Salvador, well buddy I got bad fuckin news for ya.

[–] Manjushri@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago

You are absolutely correct. They've already done it .

Leonardo García Venegas, a Florida-born U.S. citizen with a REAL ID, was forcibly arrested by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) at an Alabama construction site after agents claimed his identification was "fake," Venegas told Noticias Telemundo in Spanish on Friday.

[–] TimboSlice@discuss.online 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is so fucked up. America is dying.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

its been dying for decades, it was just a slow decline each presidency. cant really survive as the most right wing country amongst other western countries. also the fact that many conservative pundits/politicians cant survive politically in other western come to the USA too.

[–] TimboSlice@discuss.online 1 points 1 day ago

Well yeah, but I mean it's getting close to the end now..

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

yeah but in consolation space karen is getting substantially and yet unnoticeably richer

[–] regedit@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago

I shouldn't be living like this, I don't deserve to live like this...

You're right, and I'm so sorry you and others are going through this.

I've always been critical of the US and the bed of racism it was founded and grown on. I've never been more ashamed of it than I have in the last decade. So many decent folk have been hurt by this administration and those who think like them that it feels insurmountable to come back from.

Rest assured that those perpetuating these crimes will be held to account, even if they have to be hunted down like Saddam Hussein. There will be no quarter, no amount of money, and no mercy to save them from their fate; in life nor afterward.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

White many-generational American here.

In addition to license, I've always kept passport card and CBP Global Entry at all times.

[–] who@feddit.org 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

But the implications of the report go considerably further, suggesting an agency completely out of control and flouting the Fourth Amendment at every turn.

Narrator: "It is not just the agency."

[–] MisterCurtis@lemmy.world 71 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I feel like there is a couple a constitutional amendments specifically for this situation. One in particular.

[–] Etlaris@lemdro.id 32 points 2 days ago (3 children)

For this reason they mostly avoid states with high gun per person rate. Like Texas. Also, I think that they do not actively target citizens with registered guns.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That is completely false about the states, but might be true about the specific citizens

https://www.axios.com/2025/06/03/immigration-enforcement-ice-deportations-states-trump

Houston literally had the highest amount of ice raids lol.

https://www.newsweek.com/map-shows-states-ice-arrest-immigration-2107629

Texas is one of the places where ice makes the most arrests lol.

But there has rarely been instances in recent history where gun nuts have used their guns against agents of the government instead of unarmed civilians. They don't like it when they shoot back.

[–] Etlaris@lemdro.id 4 points 2 days ago

Okay, thanks for notice.

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hint, hint, Everyone buy a gun...TODAY!

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

yeah that'll totally not put up a red flag

[–] who@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

What makes you think that's the reason? Could it not be that high gun ownership states mostly vote Republican already?

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago

It's both reasons. Plus others probably.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago

The 21st? I'm ready.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Ex Wells Fargo employee here, back in the early 2010s we used to have unrealistic sales quotas for bankers and high pressure to meet them, with sales phone meetings at the end each shift. The result was the scandal we're familiar with, millions of fake profiles and/or authorized accounts opened by those that couldn't take the pressure. I think something similar is happening, Miller had given them a very high arrest quota, and you can see how this could lead to them arresting whoever they can

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I agree. Without disagreeing with how evil some of the people in charge are, this behavior is entirely explained by unreasonable quotas and lack of accountability.

Individual agents struggle to meet an impossible quota, see a huge bonus dangled in front of them, and learn there are no consequences for taking shortcuts. Clearly designed to bring out the worst in people, to reward bad behavior, yet maintain a veneer of plausible deniability by those who intentionally created the situation

[–] THB@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago

Off topic but the fact that anyone still banks there, and that they're even still allowed to operate, is just crazy to me.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 9 points 2 days ago

also apparently ICe contracts means you have to stay in for a few years or you have to payback the bonuses, or loans, so its a way to ensure some of them will stay on and not leave right away, which would increase the number of faux arrests.

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

All Americans, even those for whom immigrants are instinctively “other,” should be disgusted by these abominations, which make clear that there is no foolproof protection for anyone, Americans included, from ICE’s rabid tactics.

There is foolproof protection - be white.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Being white doesn't make you immune from being oppressed. Eventually, they will come for you, just like with everyone else.

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was commenting specifically about what ICE are doing right now. The point is that it shouldn’t be a surprise to anybody that American citizens can be victims, because the driving principle is simply racism.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

aussies, kiwis, germans, etc are being detained at the border too: skin colour is irrelevant RIGHT NOW

[–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 8 points 1 day ago

... for now. Trump is going to move on to white people who disapprove of him eventually.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

And not too vocal online.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Duh. Why else was their budget increased by multiples?