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I'd be far happier if they just shut down chat under 18. The pedos will find a way to get through otherwise.
...and how do you verify that chatters are over 18?
While I don't love age verification, taking 3d webcam scans from adults won't create a catalog of kids.
edit: and to clarify, IDGAF about chat ID verifications for almost all sites, but Roblox is marketed explicitly toward and occupied by children.
no amount of age verification/id controls is stopping bad parents from failing their kids, it's a pointless waste of time which ultimately opens up these kids/people to being even more vulnerable when somebody hacks their database.
if you run a business that provides some digital entertainment service to children, and facilitates their communication while using it...the only way your stopping groomers (or just generally keeping it from turning into a cesspool) is by actually paying people to moderate the chat rooms, simple as that
and, atleast in an unregulated shithole like the US...the only way they'll do that is if they end up being held liable under some class action lawsuit
small communities like this are work because the population using it is still relatively small
either way you're creating a database of people's faces. it's gonna be handled by a third party no matter what so whether you're above or below the cutoff is just a flag.
What's stopping them from running a client model? Why even send the images home?
the fact that they want the data.
the fact that they ~~want~~ sell the data.
Ask for verification only to enable chat. So at least in theory it's only adults.
Or, you know; don't.
i mean, to matter which way you go you'll have created a database of people's real identities. which is a problem.
Yeah but at least it wouldn't be mostly children.
did you bypass verification prompts as a child? so will they.
Yes, and Ana von mcfakenamesdottir the third, born jan1 1900 will be in the database forever.
hah.
personally i think a big part of the problem is that real-name identification for things that shouldn't need it is just sort of accepted, rather than being criticised as the massive invasion of privacy that it is. whether it includes children or not is a side note in my mind.
Oh absolutely, and we should go back to 1990s anonymity
But here we are. Everything has an endoscope.
well, we're here. but the companies and governments pushing this are already looking at possible next steps, like building systems where your real identity is used everywhere.
And part of what I want is for children to be excluded. To not be tracked. It's a good wedge that turns their rhetoric against them.
maybe. when china did it with their law about children not using their phones after curfew, they handled it by building a face database of everyone except children, then matching against that.
Still fucking awful, but more work and keeps kids a little safer than the opposite
also a very useful way to mask your true reason if your true reason is "i want to build a database of people". four horsemen of the internet type shit.
Yes but I don't think anyone but the ccp is capable of actually doing that competently at the scale of a large country. Maybe ten years ago google might've had a shot.
doing it incompetently is arguably worse, because that involves storing way too much info and sharing it too freely.
Yeah. I'm not a fan of any if this, but nobody cares when you say 'dont be evil¹'; not being pointlessly recklessly evil isn't a serious grown-up policy. better to do a political Tesla valve; introduce competing contradictory evil, dilute the propaganda, and arrest momemtym
¹except HUAC. HUAC cares.
Just send one (1) child picture.
Parents can turn off chat in the parental controls. Then I found my daughter chatting using the handheld “protest signs” in game that have customizable text…
It's a losing battle, but it shows your child is clever and adaptable. You're training them well.
I would be willing to verify my age if it meant I didn't have to play with children.
... to access chat features.
I'm going to go ahead and click 'No'
How nice to ask kids who cannot consent to share pictures with that company…
No? Still no flags popping up? Bells ringing? Alright, I'm sure this is fine too. It's ~~keeping an eye on~~ protecting the kids at least.
But we obviously can't protect the kids if we don't know who they are and therefore must have a database of all their faces.
Yeah, I'm sure that couldn't possibly exist for ulterior motives. Bunch of fucking creeps.
Getting an early start on cataloging with facial recognition.
Pedo app asking for pictures of children. Ban Roblox already, Jesus Crist.
Looks like they are building a menu...
Release the Roblox Files!
How will it combat AI generated profile pictures? They're literally everywhere now, I'm seeing them in brainrot mobile games even.
Probably with a different AI that's trained to spot that. Realistically, they won't.
Well it’ll improve the AI profile pics to the point that you won’t recognize it’s AI. Can’t be mad at AI images if you don’t recognize 'em
What could go wrong
"Sir, people keep using our service to get children to send them selfies! What do we do?"
Too many kids know not to send pics to strangers, so now the Roblox devs gotta log off their alts and use power instead of deception.
Sounds like a great plan to me. I see no way this could go wrong.
I'm disappointed this wasn't the onion when I had to check.
What could possibly go wrong?
There are too many people on the internet, let alone children.