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you said that if they lowered their fee developers and publishers would make their games lower pricing. They dotn do that on epic which charges less than half of what steam charges. How is that wrong?

Nope your opinion can be whatever you want it to be but why not hold the same opinion for the whole industry standard instead of one storefront that's a part of it? Why single one out and ignore the rest?

Again I notice you didn't say anything about how Epic charges less than half the fees any of the others do and yet the games are magically the same price as they are everywhere else. Is that not evidence that you're wrong with your statement that lowering the fee that everyone else that makes money uses isn't going to make the games cheaper? I mean bro the evidence is right there.

And yes you can report whatever you want I wouldn't expect anything less from someone who'd doesn't even understand how taxes on a storefront checkout work and who can't read something someone says without completely twisting it into something they didn't say like saying I said not to argue and saying I said to shut up which never happened.

You seem like the type of reactionary person that would do that when proved wrong. I'm not gonna cry about it. No where in any of my comments did I attack you, simply said your arguments are shit and they are.

I agree with you its wasteful and I personally would never own one but it sounds like the dude actually likes the whole sea scene and scuba dives and stuff like that a lot.

A quote from him about it: "This isn’t about buying a yacht company. It’s about plugging into a tribe of builders, dreamers, sailors, creatives and engineers—and seeing what kind of future they can shape when no one’s holding them back. This isn’t a transaction. It’s ignition."

So it really just sounds like he bought a company with a hobby he's interested in to make more money and be a part of the hands on experience with it. That's the same thing he did when he made Steam except he didn't buy it he made it.

I still think yachts are insane and some absolute let them eat cake tier of rich bullshit but I don't hate the guy for buying a company he seems interested in.

I'm not sucking his dick or anything but the dude got rich by being the least shit bag to the paying customers of his service. That's more than I can say about almost every single other CEO alive at this point. So fuck it, let him have the yachts I guess.

Ok I looked back at my comments and never did say that. Can you point out where I did?

And yes, 30% is what every competitor in that market that is making money charges which is why I say its strange and unwarranted that you only call Steam out for this. This is an industry standard.

And these publishers and developers can set the price to whatever they want. They could do 30% over the fees on just the steam store and less on other platforms like itch.io if they wanted to. They don't owe anything to steam and they don't have to use it, GOG, PlayStation or Xbox if they don't want to. They could host and do all the payment processing on their own shiny website. There's a reason they don't do that.

You care that they get charged an industry standard fee but font care about how much exposure their games get? You made an argument like you cared about games and their developers/publishers? Is that not the case? If you're "just a consumer" why do you care about the fee the game developers are being charged on (every, BTW) store front in the first place?

Ever notice how Epic charges half the fees any others do (and has lost $450million USD so far by doing that) and the price for the games is the same as on other platforms? You're misinformed if you think that they wouldn't do the same on Steam or Xbox or PlayStation if they lowered fees. There's your evidence right there.

Also, you're an adult right? You should probably stay off message boards and any publicly used websites with comments if swear words hurt you so much. No one is forcing you to be here or engage just like no one is forcing you to use steam or put games on there.

Also the fees you're talking about during checkout are taxes my dude. Jesus... Lol

In my opinion yes as long as you have one that is actually trustworthy. Mullvad comes to mind since it famously got raided and was found by authorities to keep zero logs like they promised.

Tor developers disagree but I think this is from the ideology that "it isn't illegal to use Tor!!" Which is correct but it absolutely does make you a target in any of the 14 eyes countries and beyond.

I never told you to shut up you are good at putting words in peoples mouths I have noticed.

And no no, I don't trust valve all the way. The licensing can be taken at any time in my opinion they have censorship issues and they said that about not being able to pass down games when you die. I dont trust them all the way.

What bothers me is when people complain and cry about how Valve charges so much in fees when the entire gaming industry charges the exact same fee. And yet somehow PS and Xbox and GOG are always excluded from the conversation when it comes to this discussion.

You being upset at Valve doesn't change the rest of the gaming industry. Also no, not charging the fees isn't going to lower prices because just like the sales all of that is up to the publishers and developers nothing is stopping them from charging 30% extra to cover the fees and again they could absolutely host their own stuff and deal with payment processing fees, hosting fees, bank fees and all that without the exposure that every single competitor to valve gives them at the same exact price valve charges.

One of those gives you double the exposure than the other two combined though and I'll let you guess which one that is.

Not even remotely close yet unfortunately.

Again you are wrong that 30% includes payment fees give it a search and educate yourself.

But yeah all those "failed competitors" I "cherry picked" charge the same amount steam does which was your original argument about why it sucks so bad. So you should be outraged at PS and Xbox charging that AND a fee to use your internet on multiplayer games.

Literally the only one that charges less hasn't been profitable. You're out of your element Donny.

Every single other competitor charges the same thing they do, is that enough evidence or are you going to claim every single other service is a failed competitor again? Maybe you will say that Steam should go against the rest of the industry and charge less than literally any other profitable competitor even though they have the biggest userbase out of all of them?

And if the word shit hurts your feelings you should probably know what you're talking about and not accuse me of saying stuff I didn't say like suggesting I said not to argue about steam which again I never said. Reading comprehension can be hard, I get it.

Fair. But its important to point out this won't be one that goes inside you it will be one that you put on the outside of your head that interacts with brain impulses, at least according to them.

If I was someone with limited mobility or some other sort of handicap I would do that before I got the one that goes inside my skull. But that's just me.

I agree privacy is a right.

The government definitely disagrees though. So yes you should be wary of rawdogging a Tor connection, unfortunately

cherry picking failed competitors

You mean all of them? PlayStation, Xbox, and GOG literally the only two that don't do this is Itch.io and Epic and Epic games store hasn't been profitable since it came out in 2018. And Itch is pretty much indie games only. Please name one other competitor that sells AAA titles that doesn't do that besides epic which again hasn't been profitable as a game store since 2018. They supplement it all with that fortnite money.

You want steam to be the only one that has AAA titles for sale that doesn't take the same percentage cut every single other one takes?

Not fangirling either I'm pointing out that your hate is completely unwarranted. You should hate the gaming industry as a whole if you hate the pricing model it has set up.

The reason people put their games on PlayStation, Xbox, GOG and Steam is because that's where all the players are. They could easily only sell it on Epic and not sell well if they wanted to do that. (The fee being so low on Epic is why they don't make money BTW give it a search online)

These developers could even set up their own payment processing system and sell it directly on their own website which would take about, oh look at that 20 - 30% of profits without any of the exposure PS, Xbox, GOG, and Steam gives you. I wonder why they don't do that if its such a bad deal for them? (Payment processing fees, bank fees, website hosting fees - add it all up you're not talking about some random checking account you're talking about an account moving millions of dollars through it)

You know Xbox and PlayStation could also stop charging you for the internet you already pay for and that would be super consumer friendly too. Also could not take 30% "Don't you like it?" GOG could do it too. What's stopping them?

Also no, I'm "mad" because you willfully misunderstood what I said earlier and said I was saying not to argue which is not what I said. But ok, let's argue about it, then. You dont seem to know what you are talking about because so far your argument is shit because every single other competitor does what you're crying about steam doing. Except the one losing money.