Skavau

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[–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

I’d like you to realize that “the USA who is the least likely country to implement these laws” is literally the opposite of current reality.

In comparison to Europe/UK/AUS which is far further along this road (and implemented social media age requirements), absolutely. Also, apparently it's just a checkbox as far as this particular California law goes.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It is a concern, I just don't know how it's meaningfully enforceable at scale. Just like OSA. What do you want me to do about it personally?

I never supported the idea.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Is your argument really “this won’t affect linux, so it doesn’t matter” ? At the very least, FOSS development by anyone in California will be a problem, as the law quite literally names “persons” as potentially liable.

I'm taking the position that this is largely unenforceable at a software and OS level beyond larger players that come from California or specifically do a lot of trade in California.

The reality remains, the US is the most thirsty for this kind of thing. Not the least.

This specifically is quite different to most other efforts. Not sure if it might get constitutionally tested.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Windows, and any other OS will be illegal in California unless it implements this.

Right, as I said - I just don't see how this is meaningfully enforceable. It's a complete farce. It's on the level of the Online Safety Act it being enforceable.

Apple, for one, is headquartered in California.

Oh, I forgot Apple. Sure.

But there are many other OS. How on earth can they credibly enforce this?

Did you not read my comment? Anyone writing software for an OS that implements this, can be sued (in California) if it ignores the API signals from the OS and allows access to age-restricted content.

Yeah, this is just not meaningfully enforceable. Big companies will follow, but it would mostly be ignored by everyone else.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

Yes, but if the OS was not designed in California and you are not based in California (you're not Windows, basically) - I fail to see how they can meaningfully compel anyone to follow this. Moreover, even if an OS somehow could know the users age - that doesn't automatically mean all other software that exists automatically reads it and responds to it as necessary.

Does the law compel anyone making software to recognise this?

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

Whether they do so optionally is a different thing entirely, to be fair.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (10 children)

I'm not even sure how that is remotely enforceable, although this also is a somewhat different thing to what this thread is about.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago

To warn you, downvoting is public on the forumverse, so if you are perceived as reflexively downvoting at scale in a community- you risk getting community banned.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

To stop seeing the content with that setting. it’s faster than opening the post.

Downvoting won't achieve that. Just block the community its from if it is consistently a source of posts you're not interested in.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 3 days ago

It's added now. Just kept saying "not found" when I tried to pull it in.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

@rimu@piefed.social this community doesn't seem to want to add to piefed.social.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago

Lemmy/Piefed is far more resistant to bad actor community capture by a capricious moderator. Instance admins are usually far closer to the day-to-day operations and thus have their pulse on their communities in a way that reddit admins do not. Secondly, the federative nature of it means that any community can be replicated elsewhere.

 

Digg's officially launched now for about a month and it's... really underwhelming.

The "Most Dugg" posts by upvotes as of this post:

+110, +107, +89, +86, +84, +84, +79, +79 (roughly in the last 24 hours)

As compared to Lemmy/Piefed/Mbin as seen on Lemmy.world (Top in last 24 hours):

+1.22k, +952, +855, +751, +669, +646, +620, +612

That's really poor from Digg honestly.

 

Just curious. I think the odds have gone up quite a bit, and if that happens, we'd potentially see a glut of people. I'm sure they must be watching this.

 

Effective reddit advertisement and discussion on r/degoogle, r/buyfromEU, and a Canadian subreddit (forgot the name) boosted piefed.social and piefed.ca primarily. I'd like to see more of this if people know viable subreddits, and help spread the load too across many servers. Currently piefed.social has about 50%+ of all piefed users. This is too much long-term.

 

The onboarding will offer you a lot of topics to sign up to. These contain communities in them. The idea is to populate subscription feeds, however it can leave some users with a lot of undesired subscriptions if they click too many.

If you wish to roll this back. Go to Settings -> Profile and click the yellow bar. Don't click the red bar!

But welcome, and feel free to post your thoughts here.

!newcomers@piefed.zip for a specific community also devoted to new users to the Fediverse.

Come Join us in the Zulip Chat if you have specific queries.

 

Just thought I'd note this. Main beneficiary so far seems to be piefed.ca.

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