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[–] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 years ago (12 children)

Is this not a fairly cut and dry discriminatory firing case?

[–] blargerer@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago (11 children)
[–] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

And when/where/to who.

Edit: it states in the article what she said, which is that Israel should not exist.

[–] jadero@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

It also says when (while she was not at work).

My opinion is that really shouldn't matter what you've done, if you weren't on the clock, your employer has nothing to say about it.

I can see exceptions when you are misrepresenting yourself as acting in an official capacity or if you are clearly "the public face" of the company (like an on-air personality or public spokesperson). On the face of it, none of that applies here.

[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Most professionals are expected to uphold the standards of their profession, whether on the clock or not, and that typically includes not bringing the profession into disrepute. That is why doctors, nurses, etc., who spread misinformation about COVID-19 vaccination were disciplined.

[–] jadero@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago

Fair enough. As I said, I can see room for exceptions, but the more control your employer has over your free time, the less free that time is. I'm not interested in going back to the days when a person could be fired for driving the wrong make of car.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Imagine someone spends their weekends harassing gay people then during the week they work at a gay bar

Do you think the clientele would want to be served by them?

Who you are outside of work directly impacts the business

[–] jadero@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

I think it's quite clear that, in that case, the server is the face of that business. What happens if instead, the person is working in the back room keeping the books?

[–] pbjamm@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That is a tough one, as it would also prevent employers from firing nazis or J6 insurrectionists as long as they keep it off the clock. But their bad actions can reflect poorly on the employer if they become public.

Part of me thinks what they do on their own time is none of the employers business, and another part of me thinks fuck those nazis, they deserve nothing but scorn.

conflicted.

[–] jadero@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

I disagree. If I'm a welder in the back of the shop, nothing I do on my own time reflects positively or negatively on my employer as long as I leave my employer out of it. That some busybody wants to make it my employers business is unreasonable and unfair. And that goes double for the employer who decides to make it their business.

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So if I run around shouting slurs in my own time, should I be doxxed and reported to my employer?

[–] jadero@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Absolutely not. What business is it of mine who you work for?

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago
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