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Apple’s MacBook Pro memory problem is worse than ever::Apple still sells expensive "Pro" computers with just 8GB of RAM and charges a fortune for more.

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[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 81 points 9 months ago (26 children)

The base models (the air's, not pro's), should have shipped with 12-16GB standard, and the pro's should have shipped with 16-24GB standard. I'd argue that a minimum of 24-32GB should really be the standard on something named a "pro" model.

Apple's M-based laptops are really great - excellent display, best-in-class speakers, good keyboard, industry-leading trackpad...But 8GB of RAM for $1600? Get out of here.

[–] fiah@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 9 months ago (9 children)

32gb might have been "pro" 5 years ago but not anymore, not when a run of the mill 32gb DDR5 kit can be had for $100

[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 3 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I meant as a base spec for a "pro" system.

[–] fiah@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

yes, my opinion is that 32gb was the minimum spec for a "pro" system 5 years ago. Nowadays, if 32gb is actually enough as a minimum spec then you're in "enthusiast" territory in my opinion, not "pro". Perhaps that's more telling about my standards as a PC enthusiast though, and about how far PC hardware has come

[–] coffeebiscuit@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

If you ask me, everyone and everything that’s calling itself a pro isn’t really pro.

And than again John from finance is a professional who want a MacBook Pro. IT gave him a 8gb pro. John is happy and doesn’t know a damn thing about computers.

[–] EliasChao@lemmy.one 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Disclaimer: I’m in no way trying to defend Apple here.

Saying that X amount of RAM (or any other component spec for that matter) is not enough for a “Pro” computer is not really a universal truth or something, you can’t compare people running multiple instances of Docker with people doing photo editing or web dev for example.

Either of those can be “Pros” within their field, their hardware requirements doesn’t make them professionals or enthusiasts. I know I’m being a bit tangential here, but arguing about the “correct” spec por a Pro computer has always irked me.

That being said, I agree it’s ridiculous that Apple is shipping $1K+ computers with merely 8GB of RAM. Also, it’s known that Apple’s “pro” devices most of the time just mean they’re just their most expensive tier. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Also, it’s known that Apple’s “pro” devices most of the time just mean they’re just their most expensive tier. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Your lack of knowledge shows. Everyone with at least 2 brain cells and capability to read can understand that this is just plain wrong.

Macbook pro for example has a CPU cooler inbuilt (first ever on a laptop BTW)

[–] EliasChao@lemmy.one 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That part of my comment was a bit of an hyperbole tbh, but it’s also true that Apple just slaps the “Pro” moniker to their most expensive tier without always making them deserve it.

Before the iPhone 15 Pro series, there wasn’t really much “pro” in the Pro models. Same with the iPad Pro, sure they’re way nicer and higher end, but hardly anything “pro” about them.

And don’t get me started with the new baseline 14 inch MacBook Pro, with a regular M3 and 8GB of RAM.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah I was just joking - since the MBA - MBP difference is basically that MBP has a cooling fan

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