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Hello fellow pirates! I'm tired of having all the telegram premium ads and antifeatures in the client and I'm looking for a client that removed them even if it's against the TOS. Any tips? I'd rather use an actual open source fork than a cracked version of the original

I'm looking for both Android and Desktop (Linux)

What I want is to remove the hateful ads in the channels and the "buy premium to unlock these emojis", and also to be able to arrange the folders in whatever order I like, without being forced to keep the "All messages" as first

thanks in advance!

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[–] BautAufWasEuchAufbaut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 months ago (10 children)

The proprietary firmware is already there, and if you don't update it, your libre system becomes more insecure and less reliable. Distributing updates for those devices is a net gain for software freedom.

[–] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (9 children)

You don't know what the proprietary update contains. It can be a security fix, but also a backdoor. People can decide on their own if they want to update, but I see no reason why I must be forced to have proprietary stuff in my system. I want a fully libre distro. I can't switch to one, because I would have to give up on using AMD GPUs, because people like you say that this is fine.

[–] BautAufWasEuchAufbaut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 months ago (8 children)

No. You're using a distro which enables you to use the devices you bought. If every distro would follow the misguided path, you would be unable to use your GPU with a libre operating system at all.
Nobody is stopping you to remove your firmware. Right now you're not doing it, because you want actually functional hardware.

[–] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I am forced to keep proprietary firmware in my OS to use the hardware and that's what you are advocating for. You want everyone to be forced to do that. But I don't want anything proprietary in my system. I see no reason why I should have a proprietary firmware package installed for my GPU to work. The firmware could be just on the device itself and if someone wants to change it, then they can install the package in their OS. But maybe there could also be some other way.

[–] BautAufWasEuchAufbaut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But then the proprietary firmware is in the device. Why do you think it makes a difference if you load it at boot time?
It just restricts your options.

[–] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think it's important to have boundaries. If we keep our operating systems fully free, it will be harder for anyone to pressure us to add proprietary components to them. But if our OSes already contain non-free components, it's not that hard to add more. We not only want freedom, we also want to keep it.

It also needs to be clear for the people in our community that our main goal is freedom and getting rid of proprietary software. Convenience is less important.

It is not convenience, it's being able to use a device at all in some cases. In others, firmware (updates) contain vital security and stability fixes.
I agree that proprietary software should not exist. I just think that the way you advocate treating firmware harms that goal.

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