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I didn't say that I disagreed with their goals. I just understand that they did hundreds of thousands of pounds of damage to those jets that will make absolutely zero difference to their carbon footprint and will probably be held financially responsible. A big win for the activists for sure.
Because activists like them are known for rollin'!
Declare bankruptcy and rinse and repeat.
With an ASBO and jail time, without convincing anyone, and hardening public opinion against their cause. A big win for the extremists for sure.
How does this harden public opinion against their cause? This is the type of shit we want to see. There's a difference between this and inconveniencing those who are commuting to work.
This is the type of shit you want to see, not the public.
Activists doing things activists like to see, won't motivate many others than the people who already are motivated.
We were all clueless about this at one time. Conversations like this educate people, I think it's obvious a lot more people will be upset with the emissions of private jets after this, than before the group vandalized.
But this is the point. Conversations will do it, activists like this won't. I don't think its obvious or even feasible, that many or any will change their mind about emissions based on these activists vandalizing planes.
I do support the cause, but I don't understand the means
I wrote that badly. I wanted to say that this sort of activism is valuable because it starts conversations like this. Which educates people, raising awareness.
Its fair but looking through the discussions here it seems like mostly people discussing the efficiency of demonstrations and supporting each other on it being the right thing to do (and a few dis agreeing on that too). But it seems like the point of the discussion is not the environmental crisis but the demonstration and vandalism
I dont see many becoming convinced or becoming aware about the environmental crisis, who were not already aware.
Oh I didn't notice that.
Took a quick look at Reddit and it's more encouraging. Some posts have a fair number of comments about private jet emissions, others posts didn't have a single one about it.