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[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 31 points 1 month ago (40 children)

That's not why Canada listed them as a terrorist organization.

We have actual allies exterminating entire ethnic groups, and we are supporting them. They are literally executing children at point blank range and burning them alive. How are they not labeled as terrorists and these are?

[–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (39 children)

I guess because they aren't bringing the terror here?

But Israel/IDF has indeed been found to probably have committed genocide. By agencies and systems in the UN. At this point it's kinda pedantic if it's called terrorism or not, because it's genocide.

And it wouldn't be quite accurate to say that Canada didn't do anything about this. There was suspension of arms sales after all, https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/joly-suspensions-analysis-1.7320990

Edit: It's totally reasonable to call for more action on top of this. Stopping arms exports is just a drop in the bucket compared to the horrors that are happening half a world away. But at least it's a start, however small.

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I guess should have said "mostly suspended" - but wow, that's quite a glaring loophole.

In particular, there's no reporting requirements - so it's not even possible to tell how much of what got moved under the loophole, so we don't know if it was just a $60 drop in the bucket or if say the vast majority of arms exports are moving via the loophole now.

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Shit like this is why the leaders in Arab communities are refusing to even meet with Trudeau. It's become abundantly clear that a lot of progressives in our Parliament are only progressives when it's politically convenient to be.

[–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That might be a tad harsh - I'm sure that now progressive lawmakers have been made aware of the loophole by the news article that they are working on laws to fix it (previously they may have assumed that companies would just act in good faith in doing the right thing here, or failing that, that the US wouldn't send arms over to a country found to have plausibly committed genocide).

Alas, that process is quite slow, so I am currently putting my hopes on the lawsuit mentioned in your article. Hopefully the courts will decide to apply the brakes until a legislative fix can be made.

I hope I'm not being too optimistic here.

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I wouldn't give them the benefit of the doubt personally. The only political leader who has actually said anything substantitive regarding Israel's actions was Singh. If you're a political figure and you can't even publicly condemn another countries war crimes and say that we won't stand for it, then to me you're complicit.

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