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[–] Knusper@feddit.de 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] cyd@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's not such a big deal. Their objective is to get people hooked on the system. After that, they'll jack up the price. Microsoft can easily afford to lose money for several years in pursuit of that target.

(One way this plan could fall through is if LLM tech progresses to the extent that free and open source copilots, run locally, can give result that are just as good.)

[–] Pechente@feddit.de 18 points 1 year ago

One way this plan could fall through is if LLM tech progresses to the extent that free and open source copilots, run locally, can give result that are just as good.

MS might be in trouble then.

Performance is not great but apparently it’s not optimized at all as of right now.

[–] theterrasque@infosec.pub 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are already very impressive local models for coding. Some have come out favourably to copilot in tests iirc

Edit: https://evalplus.github.io/leaderboard.html

[–] worldsayshi@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That seems so weird when you think about the pricing for openai API. It feels at least an order of magnitude cheaper than using chatgpt plus subscription, which in turn is $20/month. If Copilot is losing money, openai must be burning money by truckloads.

[–] txmyx@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Openai is losing money. I'm too lazy to find the article, but it is mindblowing how much they're losing

Edit: nvm, I found it https://medium.com/illumination/openai-lost-540m-in-2022-needs-100b-to-developing-artificial-generative-intelligence-20126721cd13

[–] Cloudkid@lemmus.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

major percentage of these losses can be attributed to the outrageous expenses of training language models.

Those cost seems to be developmental and not operational, after they reach AGI I assume it will go down

[–] YIj54yALOJxEsY20eU@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

After they reach AGI they will own the entire world

[–] axo@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

It sure is, what would make you think otherwise? It has enough VC money to burn

[–] pineapple_pizza@lemmy.dexlit.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We're in the sliceline era of generative ai, enjoy it before prices get hiked

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Yep everyone's trying to capture market share and stamp out any competitors with shorter funding runways until they achieve some amount of monopolization over the customer base. Then comes the price hikes and other anti consumer bullshit.