Western perception of “Social credit” largely propaganda btw and if you believe it isnt then you got manipulated.
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Two things can be bad at the same time.
This thought-terminating cliche is getting so tired. You may as well just say "let's just agree to disagree".
It's telling that this cliche is most often applied when western whataboutism is correctly called out, and all it does is serve to legitimize the act of manufacturing consent against China.
You've been effortlessly oriented by the State Department and its various propaganda apparatus.
Can you explain to me, how I'm propagandized by a foreign government when I'm not cheering on the policies of their opponent?
I'm not taking any sides on this conflict, because it's not my conflict. I'm a socialist... Let me assure you that my fundamental critique of the chinese state apparatus doesn't really align too much with the US state propaganda.
That you critique China without researching it is aligned with the US State Dept. That you share lies about China (e.g. the social credit score) is aligned with the state department. That you don't think there's anything to discuss positively about the Chinese project aligns with the state department.
So not liking something from China automatically means I didn't "research" it? Interesting. /s
Care to back up that bold claim?
Sure you're not talking about someone else?
You said "you don't know how much I considerer both systems" in another comment.
That's pretty much all the back up one needs.
The social credit system in China does not apply to individuals. It was originally designed for businesses. A limited pilot in certain locales was applied to individuals. That pilot program was shutdown in 2019.
So sure, go ahead and consider both systems that actually really exist. Go ahead and claim that both things can be bad. Keep on pretending!
If that's all you need to accept a wild fucking guess: you do you.
Cool, I will.
... that two things can be bad at the same time? Are you claiming that I "pretend" that malaria and the flu are both bad and actually one of them is great?
I am claiming that you pretend malaria and bad humors are both bad. One exists. The other doesn't. You don't seem to have the willingness to acknowledge that. The social credit score in China that effects individuals does not exist. Sure. You can say both the US credit scoring system and the nonexistent Chinese personal social credit score are bad, but that would be foolish.
You could be saying that the US credit score system and the Chinese social credit score that is used to manage negative externalities of businesses are both bad, but I would disagree with you.
But I am pretty sure you don't know that the social credit score for individuals does not exist.
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