mike

joined 1 year ago
 

GDPR Compliance Check

For those who haven't heard of it before, Gumb is

A platform for managing meetings, gatherings, and events for communities of any size. - gump.app/en

I have investigated this app because it is used by a club where I am occasionally active.

Landing Page / Homepage

Fonts: The landing page is using google fonts, so those fonts are loaded (8 requests) from fonts.gstatic.com when opening the website. The first issue here is that google fonts are not listed in the privacy policy at all. Second, by a German court ruling google fonts are not compliant with the GDPR:

The use of external font services cannot be based on Art. 6 § 1 p.1 f GDPR, as the use of the fonts is also possible without having to establish a connection from visitors to external servers. - LG München Az. 3 O 17493/20

Images: Furthermore the website is loading images from firebasestorage.googleapis.com (105 requests). Following the argumentation of the previously mentioned court ruling, using firebase for images could also be considered non-compliant because images could easily be served without having to establish a connection from visitors to external servers.

Youtube Embed: The website includes a youtube iframe (13 requests to www.youtube.com) with an introduction video. While youtube themself offer an iframe option called "Enable privacy-enhanced mode", the Gumb homepage embeds the »normal« iframe that places tracking cookies which again violates the GDPR. The iframe furthermore sends

  • 6 requests to play.google.com/log,
  • 4 requests to https://googleads.g.doubleclick.net
  • 1 request to https://static.doubleclick.net
  • 4 request to https://jnn-pa.googleapis.com

Tracking: The website uses, as stated in their privacy policy, Google Analytics (GA) which results in a request to https://region1.analytics.google.com/g/collect... and https://www.googletagmanager.com. However, writing "we use GA" in the privacy policy is not sufficient. GA requires consent from the website visitor.

There are a few more unnecessary requests, but I think the point is clear.

All of that is happening without any consent from the visitor!

Mobile App

Gumb offers mobile Apps for Android and iOS, of which I only checked the Android version. While I can't say for sure that the app violates the GDPR because it immediately asks for credentials, the Exodus Privacy Report (of the latest version 1.0.84) still looks rather bad:

  • Amazon Analytics
  • Amazon Mobile Analytics
  • Google Analytics
  • Google CrashLytics
  • Google Firebase Analytics
  • Google Tag Manager

Web App

Next to mobile apps, Gumb offers a web app too. Well, what can I say - there are requests to

  • https://fonts.googleapis.com
  • https://www.googletagmanager.com
  • https://region1.analytics.google.com/g/collect...
  • https://www.google.de/ads/...
  • https://stats.g.doubleclick.net/g/collect...
  • https://ipgeolocation.io/

even without being logged in or any given consent.

Conclusion

For a tool from Switzerland with paid subscription plans and the purpose of managing events/meetings etc. it uses a lot of google (tracking) services... Very sad to see as the app looks otherwise really modern and useful. Do today's developers know that applications like Gumb can be implemented without selling their users' soul to google?

[–] mike@postit.quantentoast.de 7 points 1 year ago

First: Good for you, enjoy the journey! Second: Just as others already pointed out, Mastodon is not really a beginner project. You want to understand what you are doing, not just make everything work no matter what. Some reasons why I'd not start with Mastodon:

  • Complex deployment stack (for beginners)
  • Needs regular maintenance
  • Security considerations (if you haven't managed/hardened a server before)
  • Long term project

So instead: Have a look at awesome-selfhosted for ideas. A personal dashboard, photo gallery or a PiHole/AdGuard is a good start.

About Docker; it's a bit more than just dependency separation. It's a kind of virtualization, but without each container running it's own kernel. Advantage is: Docker images run (with some configuration) relatively lightweight out of the box. So there's no need to install the applications natively. While I'm a great fan of Docker, you'd probably learn more installing things natively in the beginning. Or maybe do both, it's up to you. However, if you decide to use Docker, be sure to understand what's going on under the hood. That's where the fun begins. Everyone can pull and start images, but not everyone knows how to customize or build them themselves.

No matter what you decide to do, have fun. And if you've any questions, there's plenty of documentation online or just ask. The selfhosting community is very welcoming towards new members ;)

[–] mike@postit.quantentoast.de 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I get your point. Then, why not start your own instance with rules that you approve? I know, easier said than done, but that's the nice thing about the Fediverse. Next to the general purpose instances, there are many "themed" ones with focus groups such as musicians, journalists and so on.

[–] mike@postit.quantentoast.de 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

You lying to yourself or have unfounded expectations.

Nobody mentioned any expectations hm...

Everything on Mastodon is in plain text, there is no encryption, and servers get mirrored.

That's 100% correct, and I think it's important to explain that to non-techy users.

It’s only the login info that stays with the instance [...]

Technically yes, but I'd cut the "only" because login info includes the users email. So in case of a raid or data breach, I'd like to know about it.

The entire point of why Mastodon was ever started was censor evertbody that has the wrong opinion. Twitter wouldn’t delete people because of what they believe, so Mastodon was developed to ban IP address so only approved speech could exist on the internet as far as they are concerned and can avoid ackniwledging the real world. A high number of people on there, especially the admins, live in cult

I don't know what places on Mastodon you've visited, but that's not the point of Mastodon or the Fediverse in general at all. But we don't have to start a discussion about that since you seem to already have made up your mind about it.

[–] mike@postit.quantentoast.de 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As far as I know they seize everything if there's a warrant. No matter whether it's relevant for said warrant.

Edit: Sorry, misunderstood your comment; Don't know what the reason for the warrant was.

 

cross-posted from: https://postit.quantentoast.de/post/18942

I thought this might be of interest to other users as well as admins.

 

I thought this might be of interest to other users as well as admins.