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A look at search engines with their own indexes (seirdy.one)

submitted 5 months ago by bazmatazable@reddthat.com to c/technology@beehaw.org

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If you ever wanted to know too much about where the majority of our search results come from and the many niche alternatives trying something different.....

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[–] ConstableJelly@beehaw.org 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Seems fair, in reference to Kagi:

Unrelatedly: I’m concerned about the company’s biases, as it seems happy to use Brave’s commercial API (allowing blatant homophobia in the comments) and allow its results to recommend suicide methods without intervention. I reject the idea that avoiding an option that may seem politically biased is the same as being unbiased if such a decision has real political implications.

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

it seems happy to use Brave’s commercial API (allowing blatant homophobia in the comments)

The "blatant homophobia" claim is an overreaction. The closest thing to this is one post by a single user who said "there's nothing wrong with being against gay marriage...it's political opinion and everybody has the right to theirs". That user was basically the only one arguing in support of Eich in the thread and that was the most controversial thing they said. I think to try and frame this as Kagi implicitly supporting homophobia through a lack of moderation is very disingenuous. If you read through thread you can see many attempts to moderate the discussion, including several locks and warnings.

[–] ConstableJelly@beehaw.org 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I can't disagree. But as one facet among others, I also think "concern" is reasonably warranted in conducting a comparative assessment.

Edit: also worth highlighting: "there's nothing wrong with being against gay marriage because it's a political opinion" is certifiably homophobic. How much responsibility Kagi's moderators bear for not removing that comment or otherwise explicitly advising that homophobia won't be tolerated is debatable, but it's not great.

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Affiliation with Brave and, therefore, Eich is relevant and deserves to be mentioned in the interest of potential users. I just think the way the author extrapolates their own opinion of that comment into an implication that "Kagi allows blatant homophobia on their forums because of company bias/their affiliation with Brave" to be really misleading and underhanded.