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[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

If you want to talk about Apple specifically, then consider this. When they began making popular tech like MacBooks and Ipods, they justified the prices by giving free warranties. They would replace or repair any device at no extra cost of the consumer. Well, they stopped doing that and then wanted you to pay an annual fee to get the same service. Then they did away with that and now it's pay per repair or replacement and the prices went up instead of down. My theory is that was their business target in the first place. Get their products wide spread, and then pull rug out from under the consumer. To me, Apple is the best example of capitalism

[–] rowdyrockets@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

AppleCare still exists. So this is misinformation.

And just as an anecdote, I have not felt like Apple has ever “pulled the rug out” on me and I’m an Apple product consumer. Are you?

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago
[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

That’s simply not true. Apple still has the same one year limited warranty they had when iPods were released. Steve Jobs justified the higher premium because you were getting “the store in the box,” referring to the in-store troubleshooting and educational support at no extra cost.

Source: worked for Apple for over a decade

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What the hell is a store in a box?? Without cool aid it doesn't make sense

[–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Steve Jobs' name for a help desk at no marginal cost

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It means support and education at no cost. Troubleshooting and diagnostics are free at the Genius Bar. You only pay if hardware is replaced out of warranty. Free device and software education classes are available all day.

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] rowdyrockets@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah that's what they said. You're the one who said lifetime, which was never true.

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

3 is normally the default for expensive items though, right?

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 1 month ago

When did Apple have lifetime warranties? I tried to search but Wikipedia doesn't seem to think their warranties are notable and Apple pollutes web searches with current support articles (2 years on their phones in Australia, due to local consumer law)

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This isn’t really true.

Apple, at least here in the UK, give a 1 year warranty as is the law and anything repairs that need doing that are not the fault of the consumer (ie dropping and breaking the screen) are covered under this warranty. Furthermore, if there is a problem with a line of products then they will extend the warranties to cover that issue for a longer period of time.

You can pay to have AppleCare+ which will extend this warranty and add on accidental damage too.

There are plenty of legitimate reasons to shit on Apple without having to make up new ones.

Also, iPhones are a lot cheaper than they were a few years ago and they’re cheaper than their Samsung counterparts when comparing Pro vs Pro, etc.

Source: Worked for Apple for 3+ years and I’ve consumed many of their products, although I now only have an iPhone. For what it’s worth MacOS is infinitely better than windows.

[–] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

MacOS is infinitely better than windows.

Yeah, no. Not even close. If nothing else, window management on MacOS is a fucking joke. The only thing that makes it less shitty is 3 party apps like rectanglesapp.

The settings menu is a fucking joke and laid out by the dumbest motherfuckers you've never met.

It prioritizes wifi above Ethernet.

The list goes on and on and on. MacOS is a messy hodgepodge of shit that barely works.

Windows has a lot of issues too, but thankfully, they are always fixable or have a workaround. In many cases, you have zero recourse on MacOS and if you don't like it you can send an angry email to Mr tim apple.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago

Are you actually arguing that the settings menu in windows is better than digshit??? Settings on Mac are all in one location lol.

It prioritizes wifi above Ethernet.

No it doesn’t. I don’t know why you think that, do a speed test and you’d easily see that’s not true.

Windows has a lot of issues too, but thankfully, they are always fixable or have a workaround. In many cases, you have zero recourse on MacOS and if you don't like it you can send an angry email to Mr tim apple.

This is just baloney. Mac is UNIX. You can change pretty much anything you like about it. Your entire comment is pretty much false.

Sure the window management is shit but everything else is a better user experience and it’s not filled with bloatware and ads like windows. Plus it’s Unix based.

Sadly we program with windows at work as we use C# .Net. And my gaming rig is windows as I don’t got time for Linux, but I would take a mac at work all day over windows.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Applecare is still around so you’re wrong already.

Look, Apple’s done some shitty stuff and as an iPhone and MacBook owner I won’t deny it. Every company right now is desperately trying to find ways to charge more for less because there aren’t really any corners left to cut for capitalism to pump stock numbers up but infinite growth is still making its usual demands.

Apple products are still way more robust than the competition and they’re way ahead on things like ARM and making OSs that aren’t complete trash(Windows is a worthless piece of shit and always has been, even at its best. I own and regularly use a self-built gaming PC, so I experience it all the time). I’ll buy their products because their shit actually works and can be relied on. Plus I was able to finance my laptop at 0% and honestly the price I paid for my 14” MacBook Pro was comparable to what I would have paid for the same tier back in 2010 when I got my first MacBook so honestly, with inflation and all, it was surprisingly affordable(it was still really expensive, I won’t lie).

Anyhow it kinda sounds like you don’y have much experience with these products or haven’t learned from your experiences with them and just want to ride that bandwagon. Look into the awful shit Samsung has been doing or how expensive some of the other Android options are and you’ll see that this goes way beyond your specific hate of “the evil fruit company”. Capitalism is just rotten everywhere.

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ya know when you immediately start with condescension, I give no fucks what you have to say

[–] rowdyrockets@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That wasn't condescending. They are telling you that you are wrong, which you are. It's okay to be wrong - it's how you handle it that matters...

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee -3 points 1 month ago

Getting told I'm wrong isnt the point. It's how I was told