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[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 99 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not so sure they even want that at all. Simply because of their shameful behavior, while the US president acts like a goddamn Nazi (because he obviously is one, of course).

But for all that, the Democrats have refused to allow even a little progressiveness in their ranks for years, against the wishes of their own voters.

But hey, I don't know very much about all this because I'm from Germany.

All I can say is that in our country - and this applies to larger parts Europe - Sanders, for example, would be a moderate center-left politician. What he is calling for is not at all radical in many parts of the world, but rather quite normal. Basic decency, so to speak...

[–] themadcodger@kbin.earth 51 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yup. The Democratic party is the Republican party of 40 years ago. The Republicans are obviously now literal nazis, fascists, kkk, the worst of the worst. That's all we have and they have no interest in changing that.

Many of us like Sanders because he is a vocal option that is at least left of the status quo. But there are also so many of us that want European left policies. We just can't get it to happen in a winner takes all style of representation. And capitalism.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Overton Window really fucked us.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

yes, and the dems lionizing "centrism" and "bipartisanship" played a huge role.

They would sell their own families out if they could paint it as "pragmatic"

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Yes, unfortunately, I think the US has been a plutocracy for way too long already.

I think it's time for US citizens to admit that and change it for good. Of course, I'm fully aware that many Lemmy users have long realized this.

I really don't want to offend anyone with this obvious statement, but it's simply a fact that many people in the USA have been living like in a third world country for a very long time - even though the US is one of the richest countries in the world.

The reason for this is very obvious: shameless enrichment of the rich and powerful - hardly any difference to Russia imo - more humane means so far, yes, but the effect is basically the same.

This is not meant as an insult at all. I just can't believe how obvious the corruption in the USA is: Even in the highest offices. People like the President himself or Clarence Thomas (so on and so on) obviously no longer feel the need to be ashamed of anything - they don't even try to keep any of their criminal activities even remotely secret.

Our system is certainly not perfect and we also have major problems with corruption and also with the resurgence of fascist parties. But the level of open corruption in the USA is still mind blowing to me: The shameless insider deals of the president, the unscrupulousness of constitutional judges who so obviously rule against the constitution! I can't even begin to name even half of it.

Unconditional immunity for presidents? Imprisonment of innocent people without due process? Prisons for profit? I think that's wild and only possible in a failed state!

I mean, you really don't have to be an expert in constitutional law to realize that any even halfway decent democratic constitution would of course rigorously rule all this out.

I myself can only observe this from afar and helplessly feel sorry for all the good and still rationally thinking US citizen.

Of course, I have no solutions. Only the obvious thought that the US institutions have long been corrupted.

I wish you all the best and try to contribute at least something from afar - but unfortunately I have little hope, because I honestly believe that the US system is broken beyond repair.

[–] themadcodger@kbin.earth 11 points 1 day ago

No offense taken. We know we're "a third sold country in a Gucci belt". It's not that it started 40 years ago, but that's when it really took off, this speedrun to transferring wealth and power to the already wealthy. They purposely cut funding to education to make an easily manipulated populace, and have been using fear propaganda relentlessly for longer.

We also learned last time Trump was elected that most of our country was held together by gentlemen's agreements and the idea that our constitution never considered irrational people would be elected.

Our system is broken, and the ones with the power to do anything about it have no interest in doing so.

I honestly don't know how we recover from this. Stopping Trump is a bandaid. Rooting out the cancer… 🤷🏼‍♂️

[–] applemao@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

It drives me insane how people idolize these criminals. They will dismiss anything criticizing billionaires as "commie liberal bullshit" and go back to their charlie kirk. The US is and has been completely brainwashed. I can't tell ypu the weird looks I get when I come right out and say "the billionaires are the problem. Stop using Twitter and amazon". They act like that is total insanity.