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Don't give up a single meter of land
Require reparations from Russia
Demand all children back
Demand a formal apology for the pain and suffering caused
Demand Putin in jail through the ICC
By doing what?
A little tired of hearing this endless "well, if I were Ukraine, I would simply win the war and claim a trillion dollars in reparations and make Russia disappear off the map" Internet wish casting.
What do you do to extract any of these concessions that hasn't already been tried? And how many more people are you willing to throw into the meat grinder trying?
It’s not our decision to make how many people Ukraine is willing to sacrifice for their land. That’s THEIR decision.
The better question here is how many people is Russia willing to sacrifice for a war of conquest that shouldn’t have happened in the first place.
It's our decision whether we give them billions of dollars of weapons.
We don't give them shit, we sell it to them on loan with interest. It's all old hardware that we don't use anymore. It's a win win, our military budget goes down, they kill Russians. how do you not understand that 4 years into the war?
So, we're trapping them in debt slavery so that we can steal their natural resources. They die, we profit. Win/Win
Also, it's not like those profits go to us. They go to the manufacturers and their investors, with only some coming back in the form of wages. It's mostly a way to take public dollars and then hand it out to political donors. Win/Win/Win
Absolutely it is. We choose whether we live in a world where we defend freedom or where we appease bullies.
I guess for some people it's an easier choice than for others.
Is that why Ukraine is over $100 billion in debt to its Western "allies"?
Putting people into debt slavery is a weird way to defend freedom...
Debt is a normal part of war, and Ukraine's war debt is about a quarter of their peacetime GDP. Most of that has already been covered by the EU aid package last year.
Characterizing that as debt slavery is a pretty huge stretch.
At this scale those debts are a chain around their necks that can be used to control them.
As for the aid package, it merely covers half of the debt. On top of that? It's conditional! Ukraine has to meet certain requirements to receive that aid: energy, border management, agricultural demining, and the development of a list of "strategic and essential" raw materials. Aside from demining that doesn't sound like defending freedom, that sounds like they are trapping a client state into dependency so they can be exploited for primary production.
This has never been about freedom, I don't know how anyone could ever believe it was.
It clearly is, or you wouldn't be telling them the terms for peace.
They're not the ones negotiating loss of territory. You gotta quit this "Well I'm rubber and your glue" line of reasoning.