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ICE commander Greg Bovino will speak at a white nationalist conference in Portugal today
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Portuguese people HATE fascists. You don't even have to be that old in Portugal to remember living under a fascist dictator.
But I guess that doesn't stop the lunatic fringe.
Also, most Portuguese people look hispanic so I really wonder how an ICE-like force there would go...
Hi from Portugal. Chega (far right) is a major party in parliament right now (1/3) and arguably PSD (another 1/3) has gone far right lately especially on immigration. So we basically have two out of three parties who are far-right.
One of them even talked in parliament about βdiluting Portuguese bloodβ and βkeeping Portugal for the Portugueseβ, right before they voted to retroactively prevent all the foreigners from being allowed to apply for nationality, and prevent most of the southeast Asians from being eligible to renew their residency.
They are also talking about trying to amend the constitution, not to put anything good in there.
So uh, you sure about that?
Hi, thanks for the info. That's uhh, concerning.
I guess the far right is on the rise everywhere, but I would have thought it would get quashed when the world saw the US go ass up. Unfortunately, it seems I was wrong.
When I was in Portugal not that long ago, everyone I talked to seemed to be fairly anti-fascist. But maybe there was some selection bias at play.
I don't know what else to tell you. It sucks watching one's country slide into fascism. It sucks watching the world slide into fascism. I wish I had better answers than that...
These things take time. Unfortunately, life still isn't bad enough for the average American, so shit can still go on like this without any revolts. And as long as that's not happening, this shit can still happen to many countries before people learn again.
Hey! Another input from a Portuguese (without any meaningful information, just my vibes and feelings): Regarding your selection bias, up until recently I think a lot of people were ashamed of being fascist (I only met one teacher that said ββ¦ but our past dictator made Portugal rich!!!β), so most people would pretend to align with anti fascism. Nowadays it has been normalized and people yell bs without hesitating :(
I believe that we will have a fascist revolution before de-fascistizing the country. I just hope I can retire and live peacefully in a non-fascist Portugal :(
(Sorry if my comment is confusing, I just woke up and this post made me sad :( I felt the need to comment)
Thanks for your input. I always appreciate a local's perspective.
That makes sense I think. It's a lot like what happened in the US. The fascists were always there, but whether they were ashamed or not they knew better than to be out in the open with it. Now, they feel like they have permission, and its been masks-off.
I hope everyone gets to retire and live peacefully in a non-fascist world. I don't know how many generations it will be before that's possible though. I used to believe that good will always prevail, but now I'm under no such pretenses. The universe has no moral bias, unfortunately...
Yeah, itβs not great. Seems to be a trend all over the world :(
It's planned. Basically a decentralized neo axis. Thats the fun part seem to leave out regarding epstein, he discusses implementing governmental manipulation all starting at brexit.. I feel like a damn crazy person (well, more crazy) yelling about this but it seems like everyone's busy or just ignoring it
It can't be that crazy if you have some kind of proof. I had the displeasure of reading some of the files published by the American government, which seem to corroborate what you are saying.
The messages I'm referencing were released via his estate by subpoena, by the house oversight committee. They are instant messages via whatever osx has by default (iChat?). Its really insane to me no one has pointed it out elsewhere. Anyway if you want to go through them they can be grabbed here. They are all in .txt format.
He also had multiple books in his digital files, a lot of them relating to AGI, among other things.
I'm Portuguese. I wish that were true, but unfortunately it isn't. Currently at least 1/3 of Portuguese people love fascism. Ventura, leader of the far-right Chega party, has even stated that Portugal needs not one but three Salazars without losing popularity for it. Currently, they are the second most voted party, having surpassed the PS (center-left) in the last elections. And the ruling party, PSD, supposedly center-right, has been adopting increasingly extreme measures in an attempt to compete with its newest rival.
P.S.: By the way, looking hispanic isn't very relevant here. The concept of "white" in Europe is different from that used in North America. Fascists here generally prefer to use the name of the largest ethnic group in the country they are in instead of "white" as the superior group. "White" here is even used in certain more radical circles to refer to a mixed person of different European "races" who cannot trace their ancestry to a single "pure" nationality. Basically, many "white" Americans could be seen as "mutts" by some of these lunatics.
What happened to all the fascists after the dictatorship? Did they magically disappear?
Apparently they crawled into their holes and hid until they felt like it was safe to come out
I feel like their racism is selective enough to consider Portuguese-looking Portuguese in Portugal as "okay" and Portuguese-looking Mexicans with the same exact skin colour in the US as not okay, does that make sense?
I don't know, all three Portuguese guys in that picture are white-passing.
Which, if it's any surprise, is more common among the upper-class in Portugal. Shocker, I know...
Portuguese people do not look hispanic, they can be swarthy, like all mediteranian peoples in southern europe. They are not all that swarthy either in comparison. Maybe they had some hispanics emmigrate, it's a minority.
Fuck you you racist piece of shit.
Recognizing facts about countries including demographics is not Racist, you cynical fucking piece of shit
Demographics? Did I miss your population and birth-rate calculations in the comment I replied to? You were talking about Portuguese people not being Hispanic. Did you notice Spain is in that word? The word Hispanic means spanish-speaking people. "Swarthiness" or any physical appearance has nothing to do with being Hispanic. Spain and Portugal are neighbours if you didn't know and there is no Chinese wall between the two countries. So yes, you saying Portuguese people have certain physical attributes is by definition racist. So yes, fuck you you racist piece of shit. And apparently you're also stupid, since I had to explain this shit to yoi. And you probably still don't get it you idiot.
Read the Wikipedia link Jesus christ.
I don't care about your wikipedia link, can you read? I told you I'm talking about what I'm responding to. I'm not reading your other bullshit. I tried making arguments, you told me you won't read it, you're pathetic, give up trying to look like you're the one being reasonable.
Uhh, what? You are arguing that the portuguese are hispanic, and I''m racist for calling bullshit. GTFO.
I'm not reading this drivel, you know God damn well Hispanic is also used In reference to brazil, And you know God damn well The Portuguese are European.
This is too fucking stupid to argue and your comment is too fucking stupid to read fuck off please thank you.
You telling me to I can't read after saying you won't read my medium length racism for dummies explanation is hilarious, like seriously, are you a 12 year old Tik Tok addict or something?
You can't be a chatbot of course, Grok might be as racist, but it might be smart enough to at least have an argument.
Somebody's never been to Portugal...
I looked it up too, after the fact, and I'm right. I don't know where you got that from, it's incorrect.
Oh I don't know I've only been to Portugal and talked to Portuguese people. They don't all look hispanic, and I never said they did, but there certainly are many Portuguese people who look hispanic.
But you "looked it up," so you know better I guess...
I'm sure they have a sizable number of immigrants from Hispanic countries. How would that even work? Where you think the Portuguese are Hispanic? Like, I wouldn't even know where to start on that. Seriously bro.
Edit: here is Wikipedia with the statistics, 35% of their immigrant population is hispanic, and it is sizable, not the largest.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Portugal
The word Hispanic doesn't appear in that article.
Maybe you think Brazilians are Hispanic? They are not, as they speak Portuguese not Spanish. (Brazilians are Latino though).
You're just moving the fucking goal post because you are wrong, and you were raised not to admit when you were wrong. Apparently.
I just jumped in to correct your misunderstanding of the word Hispanic.
Neither Portuguese nor Brazilians are Spanish.
Get the fuck out of here, the Portuguese are not now nor have they ever been hispanic, they are European. Now, piss off.
I'm just wondering where you get this statistic from
You seem to think Brazil is a Hispanic nation.
I posted the Wikipedia link.
Which had 0% Hispanic immigrants.
Wikipedia? How dare you sir, alleging Wikipedia has no Hispanics. You racist./s
Pure projection from someone who can't admit that he's wrong.
Are you a closet right-winger, by chance?
Oh, well see, when I'm in Portugal and I meet people who speak perfect Portuguese and understand the culture perfectly and have lived there for years and integrated perfectly, I tend to think they're Portuguese.
If you disagree, then you might have more in common with Chega than you realize...
Oh rather, so your point here is that Portuguese are hispanic? Please let me know what is your fucking point here? Because get the fuck out of here you're wrong and fuck you with all due respect.
That's not what I said at all. And you're severely overreacting to the situation.
You didn't have to respond if you didn't want to, so how about you "get the fuck out of here"?
You're the one who's wrong anyway. You've never even been to Portugal and you're trying to tell me Portuguese people all look white?
Fuck you. On behalf of all non-white Portuguese people, fuck you.
By default, Portuguese people are white, fuck you.
Why are you so obsessed with adding bioessentialism and racist takes to this? You think someone who isn't white can't be Portuguese? You sound like a fascist.
Get the fuck out of here. Seriously giddy up.
You can leave any time you want
I do not even know what you are talking about, Bur the portuguese are white..
You've literally never been to Portugal.
Also, stop being racist.
You lost all credibility.
Projection, much?