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Sounds like they unified against you fairly well.
That they did.
I've only experienced that from them since I've known them. Not one wants a good faith discussion until you grovel to their fundamentalist tripe. Unity to them means blindly following their half-understood theories of centuries-dead men, and anyone who questions a lick of it gets the 4chan swarm treatment.
You're a dweeb and should quit posting.
When they don't have a counterargument, they attack your character. It shows just how strong their foundation of understanding is that a simple debate or differing viewpoint is a dire threat to their entire worldview. It's extremely pathetic tbh.
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I'm not sure I really agree with your first point, I think finding a way to find allys in all leftists would be worth it, even if it has a dark history. Things can be better.
But holy shit their reaction was intense. And the idea that their arguments were in defense of left unity was pretty silly... 99% of it was just "anarchists wrong and evil", and there is wild amounts of sectarianism going on just within hexbear that I'm sure lent energy to this.
I respect how you reacted under pressure. I really respect any admin of a website that can show that much restraint when dealing with personal attacks and people you explicitly disagree with.
But yeah the lethality of leftist infighting is maybe a topic that deserves more delicate conversations than memes.
Thanks for your kind words. I will admit I did get snappy towards the end of the day as I was getting tired and they had gone to straight up brigading tactics with half a dozen hexbears shitposting random replies, so there wasn't even any point to reply anymore. It had just become a classic pile on situation because I hurt their feelings.
I’m not sure I really agree with your first point, I think finding a way to find allys in all leftists would be worth it, even if it has a dark history. Things can be better.
I'm not here to stop anyone. MLs can be allies when they act like anarchists, which they tend to do when they're not in power. But you have to be cognizant who you're getting in bed with.
MLs can be allies when they act like anarchists
Uh, sure, and Nazis can be allies if they act like communists. You ever wonder if the reason MLs keep shooting anarchists is because instead of trying to work together the anarchists just insist the MLs become anarchists?
You ever wonder if the reason MLs keep shooting anarchists...
gasp he said the silent part out loud!
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Do you think that all ML's harbor some innate desire to just start murdering anarchists for no particular reason when given the chance or something?
This weird self-induced paranoia can't be good for you.
No. I think that the praxis of MLs eventually leads to ice axes in heads "for the good of the revolution". I believe you currently never would imagine you would make such an action. I also believe that your hierarchical states will inevitably lead to it
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anarchists wrong and evil
not only is that not what we said, but db0 actually said that about us
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Hey so I think you're pretty rad person who's obviously investing a lot of effort in setting up cool communities and making tools to keep them safe.
I also think you got unfairly dogpiled in a pretty frustrating way.
But further, it seemed to me you were not trying to de-escalate there. I know the hexbear dogpile can be a bit ridiculous (honestly that place confuses me, I see both the absolute sanest and most unhinged posts coming out of hexbear users) but at this point you are definitely feeding the trolls.
I get that this might be fun for you, but it does use up a lot of bandwidth in the community and I worry it harms the quality of conversations we might be able to have in the future.
Once again I want to be clear that this remark comes from a place of respect, you obviously care about fostering online community and hence this last couple of days is confusing to me.
It's understand the concern. This is just how I deal with this stuff myself. I can absorb a lot off abusive behaviour but I have to blow off some steam somehow, and this is my way.
Unlike what hexbears might say, I'm not trying to goad them. Notice that I never went out of my way to invite their dogpiles.
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I appreciate your effort to be diplomatic
You might want to reconsider your idea of what they care about, though.
I'm not sure if you're aware but db0 has been working on CSAM filtering, safe federation lists and similar.
Maybe cut them some slack? That's certainly more work than I put in.
I didn't remember, though if this is the AI guy then I did read the post. I still need to question the deeply antisocial behavior patterns when it comes to anything having to do with communication, though.
Not that we shouldn't give them credit for whatever good they do, we should.
I think you're being a bit hyperbolic generalising deeply antisocial communication habits from a stupid flame war.
Tankies would never hurt a leftist. Everyone they attack is actually a lib. Or so I've heard
Yes, of course they're the only real leftists and if you disagree you're a libnazi.
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I don't get it. Not saying that in a sarcastic way, I literally do not understand if this meme is for or against leftist/anarchist unity. Maybe I'm just old?
This meme in the op isn't about leftist unity at all
Ok. As I said I truly do not understand what it is trying to say. Is it bad?
does the work of the feds by intentionally seeding distrust between leftists
gets called a fed by leftists
"time to fill my diaper about it!"
The fact that you numbskulls don't even realize how significant fedjacketing is and why we don't do it, just says everything one needs to know.
Thanks for single handily crashing the housing market by allowing millions of hexbear users to live rent free in your head.
"Millions" 😂
how can you seriously call anybody a smuglord in that convo except you
"Uh uh, I'm not the smuglord, you're the smuglord!"
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