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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've only experienced that from them since I've known them. Not one wants a good faith discussion until you grovel to their fundamentalist tripe. Unity to them means blindly following their half-understood theories of centuries-dead men, and anyone who questions a lick of it gets the 4chan swarm treatment.

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OP literally did not attempt to have any discussion of any kind, and explicitly said they had no interest in doing so

that's the definition of "not in good faith" homie

[–] BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't exactly have a good faith argument if the post gets brigaded.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, good faith argument is being a debatelord, as was explained to me at length in the last post. People who just happen to see the post and respond are all brigading if they come from an instance that has a cross-post. Them's the rules.

Don't bullshit me that there is a proper way to argue with that fucker, he demonstrated at length that there was not.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think I've ever seen a sealion so mad before.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Fuck off, all you can do is call names and be smug, there is no point talking to you

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You literally came into my thread and started insulting me to third parties, baby. Don't act all huffy when you take what you give.

You're clearly angry because I didn't engage with your sealioning. Take a break. Not everyone owes you attention.

[–] iie@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

take what you give

who broadcast a meme to all of lemmy arguing that modern MLs are treacherous murderers who must be defeated in real life?

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not quite what the meme said, and also, it's a meme. For people frequently chanting about death to various things, y'all are surprisingly literal.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

and also, it's a meme.

You can't use this cop-out like it's a joke whenever it's rhetorically convenient for you, especially when you said in the comments that you completely meant it.

[Yes, I was baited again despite earlier doing the healthy thing of disengaging, that much is not on you]

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes I did mean not to trust tankies.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then what the fuck do you say "it's a meme" for? What useful information does that convey? Because clearly you're serious about it and have been told that that response comes off as you saying "it's just a joke bro"

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Look mate, "it's a meme" means it's not going to be particularly nuanced in its criticism. It's meant to ellicit cheap laughs through simplifying some parts. Y'all have a brain, you can certainly see which parts are exagerrated for these purposes. Your comrades were certainly capable of starting nuanced discussions about Catalonia based on this understanding.

Honestly, I think you are all playing dumb in order to get some gotchas.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net -1 points 1 year ago

I have no interest in gotchas, what I am seeking is a clear and consistent position. Obviously others who know more about the Spanish Civil War know that it's depiction of Stalin as killing anarchists rather than merely supplying them with 75% of their tanks and no more is a wild misrepresentation, and you still have yet to clarify who the "intellectuals" in Mao's case even refer to.

My further point is that this bizarre blanket characterization of MLs as butchers, including of people that they did nothing but help, is gross historical revisionism pandering to the preconceptions of people who frankly have next to zero historical understanding when it comes to the groups it refers to. It is in fact poor conduct to stand by such a message whether it is "just a meme" or communicated by any other medium, just as I am very careful to limit my accusations of, say, Nestor Makhno only to what the most sympathetic of biographers admit of him (since I personally do not know about the proof of other claims).

[–] Clever_Clover@hexbear.net -1 points 1 year ago

For people frequently chanting about death to various things, y'all are surprisingly literal.

He thinks the death to america posts aren't literal

[–] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you literally came into my thread

You literally started a discussion in a public forum. You don't get to be offended people in the forum engaged with it.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not. Hell, I left the forum open for y'all to shitpost to your heart's content!

[–] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, of course you're not. That's why you're derailing threads by accusing everyone of sealioning, because you're not mad at them at all. That's why you posted your shitty wrecker memes in the first place, because you're totally rational and calm.

Absolutely fucking childish.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll never emotionally recover from this

[–] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As I said before: try responding to what I said instead of getting a sick burn in to show to your friends.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol y'all don't know what you want. Half of you want to shut me up. Half of you want serious discussions. I'm getting mixed signals, mate!

[–] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net -1 points 1 year ago

...you realise we're multiple people, right? Like the usernames tell you who's responding to you. You shouldn't find it confusing unless you're also confused when people on your instance have different views and attitudes.

Like you've literally been told over and over that Hexbear is a left unity instance and has people of a range of socialist ideologies - why would it surprise you that we're not monolithic in our behaviour?