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I've been wanting to move on from gmail for a while now, thought about self hosting but I'm afraid I won't have the time or ability to keep it running well for a long period of time. Which service would you guys recommend? I'm not an avid email user, I basically just sign up to websites and send support emails once in a while.

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[–] liliumstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Proton and Tutanota are both privacy-centric providers who have been around a good amount of time. I'd say both are a good option if you don't want to self-host.

[–] carloshr@feddit.cl 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I totally recommend tutanota. I use the free.

[–] Zo0@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can I ask how you deal with it? Free tutanota lacks even the most basic features i.e. offline mode/search. I switched to proton after a month, it was infuriating

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[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you can also have your own domain name in protonmail.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 year ago

Same with Totanota

[–] banazir@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I really enjoy https://mailbox.org, their custom software can be… esoteric at times, but the company and privacy commitments are top notch, and it has PGP built throughout natively, including an option to automatically PGP encrypt all plaintext emails you receive. I joined it originally as a cheaper alternative to Protonmail but these days I really prefer it.

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also, you can give it out email aliases for work or to other people without giving away that you're actually a conspiracy nut and privacy enjoyer. Much better when it's @mailbox rather than @tutanota or @protonmail

[–] lckdscl@whiskers.bim.boats 5 points 1 year ago

Or you can also not care what other people think. I think proton.me sounds pretty cool. I'm a physicist too so it kinda makes sense. Tutanota allows quite a few short domains; tuta.io sounds a bit funny but it's short enough to not be strange.

When I am forced to give my email for electronic receipts in shops though...it's a full on {shop_name}@handle.anonaddy.me. No issues or weird looks so far.

[–] Ew0@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago

Yep @mailbox.org sounds a bit more professional.

[–] pabloscloud@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I tried it but the design just wasn't mine. I switched to protonmail then and it's a great value for the money. Vpn, password manager, files, mail, calender(, contacts)

[–] darkstar@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Zozano@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Proton just keeps getting better, it seems like they're trying to create a suite to compete with Microsoft.

Email, cloud storage, VPN, calendar and recently password manager.

I do wish their VPN client for Linux was a priority sooner (they're working on it now). Also, I can't get email notifications on my degoogled phone because it uses Firebase for push notifications.

Other than that, I love Proton. I pay for Proton Unlimited, I'm happy to support their growth for a great product range.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm a proton unlimited subscriber and it comes with proton vpn and simplelogin premium on top of the 500GB email inbox. I'm very satisfied with it. Signing up for lots of things with email aliases from simplelogin is very convenient and useful for cleaning your inbox of spam

[–] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same here but I’m using Firefox Relay instead of simple login. Will check that one out though.

[–] pabloscloud@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've made the switch from relay to proton pass aliases. It's great but with relay you can block spam which is not sth that you'll get with proton pass

[–] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah the spam filtering with relay is pretty good. Thanks for the tip!

[–] foo@withachanceof.com 11 points 1 year ago

I'm a Protonmail user (on a paid plan) and like it. The bridge application works decently well on Linux with my desktop mail client. Their 24 month billing plan makes it $3.5/month.

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@feddit.ch 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Proton, Tutonota, or Disroot

[–] gleep23@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Proton. Free tier is fine. Consider using your own domain, cost a few dollars extra.

[–] pabloscloud@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, 4,99€ per month when one pays by month.

[–] marftad@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago
[–] astramist@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I'm surprised no one's posted about Skiff.

[–] hypelightfly@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

After reading comments from their CEO on the protonmail subreddit I'm surprised anyone would use it in the first place. Also it's only E2EE with other skiff emails. They don't use PGP so their email encryption doesn't interoperate with other providers.

[–] astramist@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't use it as my default provider. Obviously, for some messaging, I use Proton. But if you need a FOSS provider, that will be used for registration in some services and password recovery, this is a very good option! They don't use this information for commercial purposes, that's already better than Gmail or Outlook.

[–] pabloscloud@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Skiff uses discord, so.. idk what I think of that, they also lack support for pgp and are in the us afaik

[–] trent@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

+1 on Skiff. E2EE intra- and inbound. Great service, greater support. Free custom domains setup (& catchall aliasing!!!). Comes with a Drive, Pages, and Calendar suite.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Got excited and then immediately sad while reading they were involved in crypto.

[–] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do they provide SMTP? So that I can use it in a Wordpress instance?

[–] two_wheel2@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

I use proton and absolutely love it!

[–] reggie@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use Migadu but you need your own domain for that and also it is paid.

[–] bfly75@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

I also switched to Migadu recently, because Mailbox.org removed support for own domains from their cheapest package. Good experience (so far) with both.

[–] reNou@feddit.ch 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

been using Tutanota and Skiff, had no issues so far

[–] float@waveform.social 2 points 1 year ago

Another vote for tuta here. Very nice service and having my email @ be tuta.io is very satisfying

[–] hellojack@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Been using purelymail.com, they’re pretty cheap and trustworthy imo

[–] kworpy@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I recommend Proton Mail if you just want a simple, no fuss email service. It's free with some paid options, but the paid options are super unecessary and pretty much useless if you just use email to sign up and send support emails. Proton Mail also blocks trackers and cleans links in your emails.

[–] jg1i@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If you want access to some underlying knobs and buttons, but without running your own email server, then Migadu might be interesting.

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Not sure how many people know this but there is an i2p mail service too that can work with clearnet and inside i2p. The cleanet is @i2pmail.org and the i2p mail is @mail.i2p .

I have not tried it out in years but just wanted to make others aware in case it fits your use case.

[–] kwossi@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

I switched to disroot and am so far super happy with it. especially because it comes with a lot of nice features like file transfer and cloud storage. its also free.

[–] martini1992@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Runbox is pretty good, webmail isn't amazing but just use Thunderbird and FairEmail with IMAP

[–] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I absolutely would recommend purelymail.com as well. I do self-host but this is quite a big undertaking, and even then you can occasionally get deliverability problems. For business use I would definitely use purelymail.

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