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In the leaked info, we know that Valve has an upcoming device that will use the same APU as the current Steam Deck. We don't know if this will be a new VR headset or a Steam Deck hardware refresh. Even though using the same APU means there won't be a performance increase, there could be various other improvements in an upgraded Deck like a better screen, etc. What would you like to see in a partial hardware upgrade?

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[–] joojmachine@lemmy.ml 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Unpopular opinion but I'd rather see wider worldwide availability before having a hardware refresh. Getting more Decks out there should be on top of the list before trying to sell upgrades, specially when the current deck does so much already.

[–] Anonymousllama@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still always supprised when I see Australia getting shafted when it comes to initial product launches. It's fine though, it just means I won't buy your product, no ones out there except for enthusiasts are doing to gray import these things.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago

I waited patiently for about 6 months then I said fuck it they'll never open shipping for nz and aus so I brought it from Europe and got it shipped. Cost me 3x the price lol.

[–] Lonnie123@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It is a bit head scratching, but I have no idea what goes into world wide logistics. And now in the states they are even offering refurbished Decks, so they certainly appear to have enough product at this point to open things up. But maybe they dont have enough to open them up without creating another multi-month long backlog they dont want?? Who knows

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Things I don't need:

  • OLED

  • Smaller bezels

  • 1080p

  • More advanced controller buttons (DS5 triggers)

Things I want, in priority order:

  • Higher efficiency everything (mostly SoC) for better performance, lower battery drain or both

  • FreeSync

  • Bigger battery

  • Two M2 slots

[–] BloodSlut@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Two M2 slots isnt something Id even thought of, either that or 2280 form factor support would be great

[–] Overzeetop@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Just switching to 2280 would be enough and would take the same physical volume as a pair of 2230s.

[–] madnerds@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Overzeetop@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

On the bottom, for better/easier docking.

[–] Anonymousllama@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Battery life / capacity would be great upgrade.

[–] kib48@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

an upgraded Wifi chip, the deck's kinda sucks

id also like either VRR or OLED

[–] mordack550@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why does it suck? Asking because i wanted to buy a deck and i will definitely use it for streaming.

[–] kib48@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it doesn't handle 5ghz very well, which leads to insane artifacting and input lag spikes

[–] mordack550@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is sad to hear. What streaming app do you use? Steam Link or Moonlight? On my Shield TV moonlight is insanely better than steam link

[–] kib48@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I used xCloud actually. It handled Moonlight/Sunshine moderately well but steam link sucked

[–] twistypencil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Compared to my laptop or phone, when I'm in the furthest spot away from the AP, it will drop out. Other devices stay connected, just slow down

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My guess is this will be a hybrid VR headset that can play games standalone a la the quest, as well as via PC via tether or wireless.

I don't really want a steam deck refresh if there is no performance improvement tbh.

That being said, 8"+ 1080p HDR screen with more nits would be nice. Maybe some dual stage/adaptive triggers.

[–] rotopenguin@infosec.pub 10 points 1 year ago

VRR would be the #1 upgrade. A mobile chip with mobile thermals and a mobile battery cannot consistently keep ahead of the screen refresh. The screen has to be the one to step down to where the APU is at.

Hall effect sticks, mandatory. My factory sticks started acting up after about a year. The Dreamcast could do it, don't tell me that they're too bleeding-edge expensive.

Squeeze a 2280 SSD in there instead of the 2230. I would give up SD and move the radios to a soldered miniboard for this.

Stop gluing the battery down.

[–] Secret300@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I know HDR is in the works on Linux same with VRR but that'd be nice to see sooner rather than later.

Just a little bit more RAM. I know 16GB is a good amount but it is shared with the on-board graphics so at least 4 more gigs should help a lot

I think using a filesystem that supports transparent compression would be nice to as well as zram but that might hurt battery life.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For the filesystem, I would recommend checking out this btrfs filesystem conversion for Steam Deck.

I've been super happy with it.

[–] Secret300@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never new that was a thing. I was gonna just install the fedora based alternative.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

It works really well, and it will convert your main filesystem without you having to reinstall or anything.

In addition to compression, it also will deduplicate files and set up a scheduled deduplication process.

[–] Spiracle@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Apparently, you’re getting both HDR and VRR on the current Steam Deck soon. Currently, in the Preview version, soon-ish in stable.

Announcement: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1675200/view/3686804163591367815

[–] Overzeetop@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

I'll be honest, I'm still having a problem understanding the draw of HDR. In about 99% of the places I watch...anything...there is ambient light which increases the black floor to a dark gray. I'm already losing the bottom 2-4 bits of depth to the room lighting and screen glare, giving me more fine control of gradients just makes for a slightly more nuanced (but still indistinguishable) dark gray (assuming I don't readjust my gamma every time I play, or when the train turns and the lighting is now coming from another direction) . The wider color gamut could be nice, but it would require a much, much better screen.

[–] MXX53@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

2280 nvme slot

OLED screen

Bigger battery

More efficient APU

[–] raptir@lemdro.id 9 points 1 year ago

I know it's not happening, but a more powerful APU is probably my number one.

OLED screen would be my second. I don't really care about a higher resolution though.

[–] eek2121@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Strip it down and make a Steam Machine out of it. Valve could likely sell a tiny set top box for under $100.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 year ago

The motherboard alone supposedly costs Valve somewhere around $270, so even with them selling the hardware at a loss I don't think there's any chance of getting a set top box for $100.

[–] butter@midwest.social 8 points 1 year ago

There's nothing that would make me get a half upgrade like that. But I would like to see improvements toward a steam deck 2. If this gets an oled screen, I'd like to see a model in number 2 with an oled screen

An OLED display with slimmer bezels, and a battery that uses more user serviceable glue

[–] dan@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
  • Larger, OLED screen
  • Hall effect sensor sticks
  • Better rumble
  • Support for 2242 m.2 drives
  • Second SD card reader
  • Better cooling (I’d gladly have a lump in the back middle if it allowed for a quieter/better fan)
  • Better accessory connection options (eg a standard for attaching stuff like extra batteries to the back) - I would prefer this to adding more battery (ie weight) to the unit itself.
  • Tweaks to the back buttons so they work no matter where on the button you press
  • Some sort of charging dock connection standard to avoid the manual usb connection. Maybe just a usb-c on the bottom
  • Small case design change to prevent sd cards being snapped when opening (I haven’t done it, but only by luck)
  • Replace the carry case with a plastic cover to protect screen/sticks like dbrand’s (or at least make it a lot smaller)

Better performance/more ram would be good too I guess but honestly having a unified platform with fixed specs to target has a lot of benefits.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Secret300@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

I'd love a ps vita 1000 sized deck

[–] PrinzKasper@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would love adaptive triggers like the PS5 controller

[–] skulblaka@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I was very surprised it didn't ship with those at launch, so there's likely some licensing or patent issue with Sony over them. I wouldn't expect to see them outside of Playstation controllers anytime soon.

[–] Lonnie123@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My personal and never-asked-for wish is fairly small - Backlit buttons. Id like the ABXY and Steam/start/select/Menu button to have a faint glow to them with a toggle on/off/dim in the menu. Maybe even the analog stick could glow where the current sticks are white.

For the gen pop I think the low hanging fruit of upgrades people would actually be interested in would be:

  • Battery upgrade, or some kind of switch-like efficiency upgrade that makes the battery much more effective
  • Some kind of screen improvement, be it smaller bezels or an OLED option or even both.
  • A general change in the ergonomics based on user feedback. I personally like the deck as is but Ive been surprised by stuff I didnt notice before

Beyond that its going to be niche improvements that some people may find interesting and others not so much:

  • SD and USB slot changes (additions, change in position)
  • Various internal changes with the hard drive or upgradability options
[–] Ecksell@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

smaller bezels

This would be great, plus a stretch or fill option. Bezels plus letterboxing is so annoying.

[–] kugmo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

A better APU with no Pluton and a Freesync screen are the only things I can think of at the moment.

[–] ggppjj@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Another m.2 and an optional 5g modem would be choice to me.

[–] zyeri@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hall effect sensors, and I want to be able to pair the deck with my computer and use it as a controller.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

You can sorta already use the deck as a controller iirc. You can stream a game to your deck and still have it display on your PC. Just turn your deck screen brightness down and play.

[–] Ecksell@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

Assuming this is a refresh of the Steam Deck (Doubtful) or a Steam Deck 2 (If this happens, Ill eat a slice of pizza with double olive and double pineapple), I’d like the popular ones here, and A DECENT BLUETOOTH CHIP!

[–] burnso@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Better display, better form factor/ergonomics.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Current ergonomics are pretty good in my experience, but I do have larger hands. How would you like to see them changed?

[–] morgan_423@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'll take a larger screen, the 7" is far too tiny for me for almost any game with text or captioning. Something in the 9" or slightly larger range would be golden, and you could get most of the way there by getting rid of the bezels. The actual Deck itself wouldn't have to be that much bigger to accommodate the rest.

[–] stormesp@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

At the very least, a weight decrease and a bit of a more comfortable ergonomics for long term play sessions, really tired of handhelds that end in a straight vertical line that make you have the wrists in tension instead of having a similar end to controllers like the one from xbox where your wrists can be without that much tension.

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