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Meta just announced that they are trying to integrate Threads with ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, etc.). We need to defederate them if we want to avoid them pushing their crap into fediverse.

If you're a server admin, please defederate Meta's domain "threads.net"

If you don't run your own server, please ask your server admin to defederate "threads.net".

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[–] aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Yeah dude let’s just federate with an instance maintained by a corporation that has undoubtedly caused a genocide in Myanmar by turning a blind eye to a far-right hate speech group that caused an entire fucking minority to flee into another country.

I don’t get why people are supporting and saying “oh it must be up to the user” like bro this is the company we’re dealing with. Fuck that fuck threads fuck zuckerberg i don’t want his shit cancer near something that’s going well so far.

[–] ponik@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Excuse me sir, i cant be more agree with you

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[–] guriinii@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Israel have been successfully pressuring meta to remove and shadow ban accounts sympathetic to Palestinians. The level of censorship is crazy.

[–] raoulraoul@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

OK, I'll bite. You got something more substantial than "I read it on the internet" to back that up? One reputable source on your accusation? Not sayin' you're lying/wrong, just asking for some verifiable proof.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Numerous actual popular accounts and news sources have been suspended. It was major news in the Arabic-speaking world in October. Meta even apologized for auto-translating Palestinian as “terrorist.”

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[–] guriinii@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

At the moment this is coming from secondary sources from within meta so there are no articles about it that I'm aware of. But Palestinians and activists constantly have their content removed, account reach limited, and comments removed (which has happened to me multiple times). People also have their accounts threatened and removed.

These actions are visible constantly, meta have been doing this since the start. For example, when you go to someone's stories at the top it might show 4 or 5 stories, but when you click through to their profile there'll be 20+.

Some people I follow don't even show up at the top anymore and I have to access their stories via their profile page or if I've messaged them recently.

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[–] snek@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If they want to hang out with us, they can make an account somewhere other than thread, bam, done!

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[–] lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

please take a look at the replies under zuck's own post in threads.net and determine if that's the type of content you want.

for those who don't want to visit, majority of the commentators are bots. some advertising crypto, and others asking for money.

even if you think you can individually block those accounts, keep in mind the size of threads compared to fediverse.
for Lemmy: monthly active users are barely ~~150K~~40K, while for threads it's 100 million. there's no chance you can control that inflow of bots.

and if it still doesn't convince you, you can read threads' privacy policy, which states that they'll gather all that pii if you interact with their content.

most of the internet is already bigtech, I don't want Lemmy to become another arm of it. though I have faith in my instance maintainer and dessalines, the dev.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

lemm.ee already made the decision, based off of the voice of the community to defederate from Threads

[–] Jack@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lemmy.Ca admins blocked Threads about 5 months ago: https://lemmy.ca/comment/901551

You can confirm that Threads dot net is still blocked by Lemmy.Ca by going to https://lemmy.ca/instances and clicking on the "Blocked Instances" tab.

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[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Comment stolen from user "copygirl" from blahaj.zone:

Looks like they'll be harvesting your data if you follow anyone from Threads, maybe even injecting ads. Unsure what happens to the data of people that get followed by a Threads user. A large part of the fediverse is here precisely because they want to escape corporate meddling, data-hoarding, advertising and other anti-user malpractices. There's a number of people talking about this, here's a recent post that highlights some of the things from their TOS.

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[–] Nexy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

For default, they are unfederated in threads.

Also, are you sure you want the mass don't know what the federated web is? We are a low number of users. If we want to me the new standard of internet, we need the people to know what de Fediverse is. And threads can be that first door, and then they can start to spread to other more suitable stances.

I just want to extend the conversation.

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[–] Thisfox@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Everyone everywhere should federate."

"Not like that!"

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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

If anybody remembers XMPP being widespread and what Facebook, Google, Apple and others (say, I personally remember VK and Yandex in Russia supporting it) did to it, that's what will happen if you "wait and see".

EDIT: oh, half the thread is such comments

[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I remember what the standardising committee did to XMPP: users wanted to share photos, send files, and make audio/video calls; XMPP said "we're not going to standardize that, but each application can use its own extensions"... then it all went to hell.

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[–] capital@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (29 children)

Let users decide because we’re fucking adults.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Great thing about the fediverse

People get to decide what they want from their platform

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago

Surely you're aware of the embrace, extend, extinguish corporate strategy.

People only get to decide what they want from their platform until facebook starts extending the spec. Then your client will become incompatible with some posts, and so on and so forth.

In summary, it's a threat to the platform itself.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago

Exactly, I hereby decide that I would like to ignore corporate efforts to undermine this burgeoning new platform. I furthermore reserve the right to complain about the loss of said platform in future years by claiming that it's everyone elses fault for allowing corporate encroachment.

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[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Then go join threads.net? Nobody's stopping you from doing that. That would put you on a server friendly to your beliefs.

Server admins also have opinions, and are not required to take a democratic vote and each individual user's choice into account. They can decide for themselves, and they will, for good or ill. If you don't like where it ends up, your user decision should be to fuck off to threads.

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[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

You have the full right to decide, you can switch servers to one that chooses to, or open multiple accounts. That's your choice. This isn't Nostr, in the Fediverse instance blocking is normal and it happens without your input, but you know what does happen with your input? Registering your account on a server that fits your needs best, or as close as possible.

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[–] letsmakeafriendship@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In favor of defederation. If I start seeing garbage from threads in my feed, I'm switching instances. I don't want Meta pushing their divisive, hateful, misinformation all up in my feeds. Meta will kill fedi. We don't need them.

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