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[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago

Theres a technology connections video for that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Limpr1L8Pss

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Steam.

The answer is steam. Some microwaves have a humidity sensor that measures the amount of moisture released by food during cooking. Using that information, the microwave can estimate when the food is done and, in some models, adjust the cooking time automatically. For example, certain microwaves use this technology for sensor-cooking programs designed for potatoes, vegetables, or other foods.

Unfortunately, these features have largely turned into marketing gimmicks. They help sell microwaves more than they necessarily help cook food correctly. Many models no longer include genuine humidity-sensing technology, and the single-food buttons on cheaper models are often nothing more than preset cooking times and power levels.

People buy appliances based on how they look and how well they can show them off to others. Very few consider how a feature actually works, whether it serves a practical purpose, or whether it offers any real benefit over a less expensive appliance.

Here are a few other questionable marketing gimmicks in modern appliances:

Refrigerator air filters: These can reduce certain odors, but their effectiveness varies. The problem is that manufacturers turn them into another recurring expense for the owner, even when their practical benefit is limited.

RFID water filters: Some refrigerators use authentication chips to reject compatible aftermarket filters that lack the required RFID identification. This does not necessarily mean the manufacturer's filter provides better filtration; it can simply mean you are locked into buying that particular brand.

Self-cleaning ovens: The high-temperature pyrolytic cleaning cycle is a legitimate feature, but it can put considerable thermal stress on components, particularly door locks, thermal fuses, and control electronics. As an appliance repair technician, I can tell you that this feature helps keep people like me in business.

Air fry versus convection: Air frying is essentially a form of convection cooking. Both use a fan to circulate hot air around the food. Air fryers and air-fry modes can differ in fan speed, airflow design, and heating configuration, but the underlying principle is the same. Manufacturers have simply found another way to market a familiar technology.

Coffee machines built into refrigerator water dispensers: Another feature that adds complexity, cost, and additional components to an appliance that already has enough things to break.

Android tablets built into refrigerator doors: You do not need a tablet on your refrigerator. At all. You can enjoy the technology if you want, but integrating a general-purpose computer into an appliance creates another potential point of failure and another expensive component to replace when the refrigerator itself may still have years of useful life left.

Wi-Fi connectivity in washing machines and dishwashers: What exactly do you need it for? You have been washing clothes and dishes your entire life without an internet connection. You do not need a notification telling you that a cycle has finished. You can check the appliance yourself.

The appliance industry has become increasingly focused on adding features that look impressive on a showroom floor rather than improving the fundamental functions of the product. I would much rather have a well-built appliance with reliable components, straightforward controls, and inexpensive replacement parts than a refrigerator with a tablet, a washing machine connected to the internet, or an oven that requires a technician after running its self-cleaning cycle.

Build better appliances. Make them reliable, repairable, and affordable to maintain. Stop confusing more features with better engineering.

Source: I'm an appliance repair tech for 22 years.

[–] loomi@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you had to buy a new stove top oven, what would you buy? Standard consumer sized one

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you mean a cooktop, I would recommend keeping it as simple as possible. Do not fall for the touchscreen crap. If it does not have knobs, I would stay away from it.

Personally, I would also avoid appliances made by Whirlpool Corporation. In my experience, they are genuinely poor products and not worth the headache. That means being cautious about Whirlpool, Maytag, KitchenAid, Amana, and JennAir, which are all part of the same corporate family.

In my opinion, Frigidaire makes some of the best cooking appliances on the market, and you really cannot go wrong with LG, either. LG makes genuinely good appliances across the board. If you have heard horror stories about LG, I would take them with a grain of salt. They have their problems, like every manufacturer, but their reputation for making bad appliances is not consistent with my experience as a repair technician.

[–] loomi@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Thank you! I have a whirlpool stovetop oven and it’s piece of dookie. Ceramic chipping off, burner turns on and goes 100% regardless of temp setting, oven pre-heats sllllllllllllllllooooooooowwwwwwwwwwly

[–] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Want to come over and look at my microwave?

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

You started a pyrolithic self clean on your microwave over the WiFi again, didn't you?

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Lol 😂😂.

No.

[–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 days ago

Thanks for writing this :)

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[–] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago

Easy:

Some microwaves just set a timer, like 2:30 and call it a day. Others do power changes like 100% for the first minute then 75% for the next 2. Others have sensors and logic and compute the actual best time to stop popping based on physical conditions of the inside of the microwave

Orville has no idea what version you have, so they give you an algorithm instead

[–] NXVX@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Okay; lot's of memey answers here.

But I saw a video from "Technology Connections" and as I understand it most popcorn buttons are just timers.

However some microwaves have weight sensors and hydrometers. Most microwave buttons suck but some are actually good.

Another thing to watch out for a new microwave is whether or not low power mode means 20% power or 100% power 20% of the time.

[–] Majestic@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 days ago

Look for the word inverter. An inverter microwave can actually adjust its output power. Expect to pay a bit more but the cooking is better and if you have a circuit in heavy use it can let you run the microwave at half power and the toaster at the same time.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Another thing to watch out for a new microwave is whether or not low power mode means 20% power or 100% power 20% of the time.

Is that even a thing? I'm under the impression that magnometers have to be run at full power, and all you can change is how frequently they are on during the cycle (which is never the full time, even at 100%)

[–] Majestic@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago

Inverter models can modulate their output power. They’re better and consequently more expensive.

[–] shaztopher@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago

I think it’s modern technology allows switching on and off the magnetron so fast that it’s effectively 20% power, kinda like PWM on a LED. Versus older cheaper technology that just switches on and off every second or two

[–] dawcas@scribe.disroot.org 13 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I've never even seen a popcorn button. Is this a 'Murrica thing?

[–] ElDuderino@lemmus.org 3 points 6 days ago
[–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

they love the corn

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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 10 points 6 days ago

This post lacks [US] tag.

[–] Corn@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Microwave design in America infuriates me ever since moving over here.

Used to be you just press the number for how long you want, and then enter the power and 30% power meant max power for 3 seconds, then off for 7.

Then they stopped turning on the microwave when you press a number and you had to find "cook time" among the 15 different buttons for specific types of food that never turns out right or require you to look up a chart, it was faster to just press "add 30 seconds" 8 times.

Then they removed the "add 30 seconds" button.

Every evolution was more expensive and fancier, but replaced the most basic functions with things that I have literally never used or heard of somebody using.

Then I came to asia and half the microwaves have two dials: Time and power, and power actually lowered the heat instead of just boiling and then letting it wait for 10 seconds.

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 2 points 6 days ago

This is exactly what my experience has been, although I still have the "add time" buttons. Don't forget that half the buttons are inaccessible unless you have the door open. I have no idea why anyone would design a microwave this way.

[–] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

30% power meant max power for 3 seconds, then off for 7.

This is true for most microwaves unfortunately. Panasonic's use an invertor however so you get genuine reduced power vs % of time at max power.

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[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Better yet: Why are microwave interfaces so complicated? I don't want twenty buttons for different foods, or press up/down buttons fifty times because you didn't include a number pad

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[–] oppy1984@lemdro.id 6 points 6 days ago

I use the popcorn button every time I make a bag. The sensor has never worked and I just have to pull the bag when the popping slows down, but the button sets a three minute timer and starts the microwave, it's easier than setting the timer and hitting start like I had to on my old microwave....the struggle is real /s

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 days ago
[–] Knuschberkeks@leminal.space 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] eepydeeby@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago

Came here to post this!

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago

It was one of the very first early tests to see how much the powers that be could dick with the general population. Quite a lot, as it turned out. /s

Long ago, Popcorn Button dishonoured himself and his family by breaking his word. Popcorn challenged him to battle, but Popcorn Button was a coward, and fled. Popcorn pursued him across valleys and over mountains, to the edge of the sea. There, Popcorn fought Popcorn Button for twelve days and twelve nights. No clear victor emerged, and the feud continues to this day.

[–] KalSeth@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Acthually, the Popcrn button was intended for making popcorn Not in the Microwave bags. So when people use those bags and press the popcorn button it doesn't work out.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

you'd think at this point the two industries would have hashed things out so the button says "kettle corn" or something, so it's not confusing..

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The popcorn button is for making metric popcorn.

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