This is the company that took 5 years to allow you to move the taskbar again. But now that you can, they no longer need the 60,000 people involved in that project.
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Its that why my taskbar keeps disappearing requiring restart? A small bar pops up when I press the start button, but disappears when I load a menu. Quality product.
That's more likely to be from explorer crashing.
Meanwhile in KDE, I can multiple taskbars of different sizes. I have 3 in the SAME row. A tiny one for virtual desktops, a tiny one for a usage monitors, and ofc the normal one, half my screen size wide. For such high-tech M$ would probably need a human lifetime, or 20k agents.
HOLY CRAP I can move my taskbar again! Thank you for letting me know, I had long since given up
Yea this is the exact type of shit I expect to read in a serious recession. Great now we have 60,000 skilled tech workers with years of experience competing in the job market that's already fucked.
I can land a tech job as is. Too much experience for a tech support role and not the exacting experience employers can find with an army of WFH techs to pick from.
If ONLY we had Cut Their Taxes they would be HIRING people INSTEAD of Firing People! If ONLY!
-LITERALLY Republicans who Cut Their Taxes!
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Awesome! I have 4 pepper plants going right now. This has created a glut in the pepper supply for 200-feet around my house. Something must be done!
Is this the innovation capitalism is promoting?
Will this make line go up?
Yes, for a short while between firing the employees and then learning why whey were there in the first place. Then the line will go down until further people are fired in the next round. The venture capitalist's ideal company consists only of a CEO and the room cleaner (because some work has to actually be done).
Their "buy new hardware" move really backfired on them.
It baffles me that the government is always pushing AI but also dependent on the job market hiring and not laying people off. They are at odds.
This is simpler than you think. AI is a bubble. It is a giant bubble.
Many people, including many government workers, are getting rich right now by riding the bubble. They and their funders have zero interest in worrying about what will happen when it bursts.
(Also, AI is vaporware. It can't replace workers in huge numbers. So nobody serious is actually worried about that... Of course there are some occupations that have shifted, but far fewer than you would expect.)
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I really don’t understand what Microsoft is doing here, well I will just pretend to be willfully ignorant for a second:
When company such as Microsoft is presented with the gift of drastic improvement in productivity, why is their first reaction to lay people off? Shouldn’t they capitalize on the gains, take on more work, release more products gain market share and make more money? Microsoft is a software company. Why aren’t they releasing more software? Why are they laying people off in their video games studios?
There are so many segments of the software and hardware industry they could enter or re-enter or expand. Video editing software, music production software, social media, micro computers, consumer electronics accessories…
Either they have no leadership or they know the productivity gains are not real, or both.
I think they know/strongly suspect that the bubble is about to pop. They are trying to drastically cut expenses to better weather the coming economic storm.
Like they don’t have enough money to weather any storm
Maybe they don't.
On the gaming side, at least, they spent billions buying out the competition to then do nothing with them.
And a bunch of studios that did deliver successes, well, they got promoted to unemployment in thanks.
Like others said, it looks better next quarter than a bunch of new projects. Short term gain vs long.
But also, their expenses from all that hosting and usage are high. They’ve masked it creatively, but that only works so long.
Maybe they’re trying to make their balance sheet look less catastrophic in the short term (again, at the expense of the long term).
Whatever it is, that will be the underlying theme. Things must look good immediately, at the expense of sustainability.
Microsoft is in the looting-by-executive phase of development, I don't know why. I suspect that they see hard times for the company ahead and are extracting every cent that they can before the hammer falls.
My opinion
Only way I can possibly make sense of it is to put myself in the shoes of a capitalist executive. My job is on the line with AI companies reporting massive losses and an earnings call is coming up. If I don't care about human beings, I can just lay them off and that will reduce headcount expenditure so that earnings looks better after spending massive capex on AI. Not to mention the market rewards such announcements by increasing stock valuations since we're running more lean.
However, such a large amount of layoffs could prove unpredictable for workplace morale.
What if we didn't have to pay most of the benefits we do and allow many of our headcount to choose on their own when to leave? We look better in the public eye, we can have a lead time for a couple months so that this earnings report on Wednesday will look like a massive shift for the year end earnings call when we're looking for more investment. We'll be operating so lean it'll be insane. And anyone who doesn't leave voluntarily we can simply lay off afterwards and it'll be a smaller number of layoffs, which the public already treats as normal operating procedure, weeding out the undesirables.
Let's do it.
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I heard from a colleague in India that Microsoft laid off ~8000 Indian employees last year (close to 40%). That included contractors. Replaced them all with A.I
I think that's about to happen here.
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if you work in IT, you really need to think about what kind of job you'll do in the next couple years.
edit: just to clarify, you won't be looking for a job because AI took it. you'll be looking for a job because AI crashed the economy and took the tech sector with it.
my little piece has already gone to shit. incoming revenue is under half what it usually is at this point in the year.
I worked tech support for 13 years before finally burning out in 2018. So glad I am NOT in tech right now!
Out of curiosity, what field did you switch to?
I work as a security guard in my city's municipal convention center. City government job. The insurance is good, so this is my retirement gig.
personally I'll probably go into some form of product design or manufacturing.
what that will look like is still entirely dependent on what actually happens.
I have always enjoyed designing and building furniture or room fillers. since that's a luxury good it's hard to say if there will even be a market for it.
Self employed in IT, nope, I will be fine.
what happens to jobs when an economy dependent on technology is no longer sustainable and bursts?
best of luck to you though.
It makes sense, no one likes any of their products.
That too, but also everyone is getting replaced with AI now
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Yup, exactly what we need to fix the AI/Human Slop software they have been spitting out for a few years now.
I believe they knew they’re losing the pc market. ~~They dismantled windows team like 6 months ago.~~
Edit: I could not find a source.
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Offering buyouts to 60k people is not the same as looking to remove 60k employees. A lot of those people are not going to take them, and MS has that factor into the number they offered.
But its also not not the same as looking to remove 60k employees. Right before my company did forced layoffs, they offered voluntary packages like this with the stipulation that if enough people didnt take them, it'd transform into involuntary layoffs.
They are offering this to 60k employees and should all of them take it, that's 60k fewer employees at the end of the day. Of course it's unlikely for that to happen but not impossible meaning they're prepared to lose all of these people.
I don't know the details of the microsoft offer, but at another company we had a few of them, and the 'fine print' was:
- If too many people applied to participate, the company reserved the right to deny applicants
- If someone was deemed too critical, executives reserved the right to reject individual cases
So offering to 60k does not mean they actually accept the risk of all 60k leaving.
More interesting is the logic of a 'buyout'. Now the superficial assumption is that it's better for morale, but as you saw, it's pretty much certain that morale will be hurt by an involuntary layoff action anyway after the buyout. But maybe you could argue the hit was softened by the buyout earlier...
However, I think the actual goal is to disproportionately get the people in their 60s, the folks that given the right 'nudge' will just nope out into retirement. They would love to do that in layoffs, but historically that has hit age discrimination suits. Whenever we had a farewell celebration in a buyout, the people were mostly people at retirement age.
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It would be kind of entertaining to see what happened if all 60k people accepted the offer, though. I’d be surprised if the company expected more than 10% to do so. Probably even less.
Since the original post apparently disappeared:
Oct 26 (Reuters) - Microsoft (MSFT.O), opens new tab said on Monday it is offering voluntary buyouts to about 60,000 employees, or more than a quarter of its global workforce, as the technology giant looks to contain costs and help fund its massive AI investments.
Staffers across the Windows maker would be eligible for the offers, including those working in AI experiences, Copilot, finance, human resources, Xbox and Windows + Devices, a source familiar with the matter told Reuters, requesting anonymity as the matter was private. Units such as marketing, commercial business and security will be excluded, the source added.
"This offer gives eligible employees who may be considering a future outside the company a new choice to make that transition now with support. It also gives participating organizations another way to adapt their workforce to changing needs," Chief People Officer Amy Coleman said in a staff memo.
Like other tech giants, Microsoft is spending hundreds of billions of dollars on AI data centers and chips, drawing scrutiny from investors over whether the returns will justify the staggering cost. The company, slated to report first-quarter results after markets close on Wednesday, has forecast $175 billion in capital expenditures for the 2026 calendar year.
Microsoft had 223,000 full-time employees globally as of June 30, 2026, according to its annual filing.
Shares of Microsoft, which had risen about 10% this year, were up about 1% on Monday. The development was first reported by Business Insider.
The company earlier this year offered voluntary buyouts to about 7% of its US workforce, or about 9,000 employees.
In July, Microsoft announced it would cut 4,800 jobs, or about 2.1% of its global workforce, overhauling its Xbox gaming business and divesting up to five studios as it looks to boost returns after years of heavy investment in the division.
"This offer will be available to eligible employees in participating teams in Canada, India, the United Kingdom and the United States at level 70 and below," Microsoft said on Monday.
The company said it was a time-limited, voluntary program and built on insights gained from a previous voluntary retirement program. The eligible employees will receive details within the next few hours, it added.
Makes sense, the line must go up at all cost. This years profit has to be way way way WAY bigger than last years, otherwise what is even the point of running a multi trillion dollar business.
Yes, sadly. Microsoft made 193 billion dollars in profit in 2025, and has only made $225 billion dollars in profit this year. The investors are basically starving to death
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Hire to create the illusion of growth, fire to create the illusion of competence. Rinse and repeat ad infinitum.
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