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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 32 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah, it really should’ve read “Levar Burton - The New Scotty?” To which people would’ve been like “a black Scotty, WTF?” It’s kind of interesting how much the original dynamic was broken apart with the TNG crew, and glad they tried doing something different instead of just a carbon copy reboot. Some just don’t translate or were completely new “roles” that just didn’t exist in TOS.

  • Kirk (Picard + Riker)
  • Spock (Data)
  • Bones (Crusher + Worf)
  • Scotty (LaForge)
  • Uhuru (Yar + Guinan + Troi)
  • Sulu (Data)
  • Chekov (Wesley)
  • Red shirts (Gold shirts)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Except Geordi wasn't the chief engineer yet, so that wouldn't have worked either. That didn't happen until season 2.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Honestly, the worst thing about the first season was the revolving door of Chief Engineers.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Blame Roddenberry. He didn't even want to show Engineering. I don't get it because people loved Scotty.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's crazy to me, the engineers are always my favorite characters

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

And have inspired so many scientists too.

There's a (poorly named) documentary called "How William Shatner Invented the Future" which features a bunch of scientists talking about how Star Trek inspired them. Including the inventor of the cell phone.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Er, I find that hard to believe considering Main Engineering was the biggest set they built for the show.

Is there a source for that anywhere?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

During the first season of Star Trek The Next Generation, there was never a full-time chief engineering officer for the Enterprise-D. Originally the producers thought that most of the action would take place on the bridge and would rarely go to other areas of the ship, including engineering. The bridge officers would call over the intercom to the other areas and have some voice actor say "Yes sir!" and so forth to save money on new sets. Gene Roddenberry disagreed with this idea and had a change made to the shooting script for the pilot episode "Encounter at Farpoint" to include a scene in engineering; otherwise no engineering set would have been built at all. That set the stage to bring in a new character to act as the chief engineer. Well, it didn't quite work out as planned at first.

https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/inconsistencies/chief_engineers_tng.htm

Now I don't know where they got that from, but that website is generally a reliable source. But I was wrong, it wasn't Gene.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So why would I blame Roddenberry if Roddenberry is the reason the Engineering set got built?

Your previous comment made it sound like he was against the idea of going to Engineering.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My edit must not have gone through. I forgot to add that I was wrong and it wasn't Roddenberry and edited my comment, but it didn't go through to you fast enough I guess. Sorry.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Okay. The idea that they didn't want to film in Engineering really confused me. Because Encounter At Farpoint made a big show of Picard walking the entire set from top to bottom.

It makes a lot of sense that Roddenberry himself vetoed that idea.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I had always heard it was Roddenberry that said no Engineering set, but this does make more sense.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Maybe Roddenberry's PoS lawyer...

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I'm guessing Paramount producers in this case, but it's hard to know. It seems to me that Maizlish was more about just doing things his way rather than saving the studio money.

And in the end, they just redressed one of the movie sets as Enterprise-D Engineering and saved money anyway.

[–] Cagi@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 months ago

I really liked that! It accurately demonstrates that when you are building a new team, leadership roles are especially challenging to fill. It made it feel like a believable workplace.

[–] turbodrooler@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

“Code of Honor” disagrees

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Code of Honor isn't even the worst episode of season 1.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

That’s right, so at that point he probably would’ve been more of a Sulu or a Chekov.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 months ago

So, so, so many gold shirts :(