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UK creating ‘murder prediction’ tool to identify people most likely to kill (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 1 week ago by Powderhorn@beehaw.org to c/news@beehaw.org

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From the who-needs-precogs dept.:

Researchers are alleged to be using algorithms to analyse the information of thousands of people, including victims of crime, as they try to identify those at greatest risk of committing serious violent offences.

The scheme was originally called the “homicide prediction project”, but its name has been changed to “sharing data to improve risk assessment”. The Ministry of Justice hopes the project will help boost public safety but campaigners have called it “chilling and dystopian”.

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[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 6 points 1 week ago (5 children)

This is a bunch of "facts" that reflects your experience as a television consumer.

Religiosity does not predict odds of committing homicide. Domestic violence is indicative of higher risk, but "always" going to murder is an absurd extrapolation that isn't statistically backed up. My ex liked hitting me and throwing things at me, yet here I am.

I've no idea what you're on about with making this a class issue. Rich people are just as likely to kill their spouses; they just know how to get away with it by outsourcing.

[–] ShotgunForFun@beehaw.org 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I think you combined both statements as one. And should come back to me when you're sober.

Choking was the line I drew
Poverty causes murder out of need

Two separate things champ. Have a good day. I'm really sorry you're trying to make excuses for someone assaulting you though. That's a weird hill to... die on.

I beg you to please seek help cuz it's not cool to defend someone hitting you just because YOU survived. That's called anecdotal evidence, definitely untrue in the real world. Again, I have a degree. And I would love to take this to a private conversation if you want.

[–] elfpie@beehaw.org 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Please, don't take this to a private conversation if it's not a private matter. The topic you were discussing would benefit others and being open offers the chance for someone to jump in with a unique perspective.

Now, about the way you expressed your opinion on the assault received. I don't have a degree in psychology, but I believe you shouldn't so nonchalantly analyse someone's behavior after just one interaction and you definitely shouldn't treat it with levity ("to die on"). Also, personally, I think you should only advise people to seek help when it's for their on benefit, not because you don't approve their behavior. You might have had the best intentions, but the language you use is important.

[–] ShotgunForFun@beehaw.org 1 points 5 days ago

Okay, I also... "personally" think it's fucked up to downgrade any psychical assault against a person. Which leads to death generally.

I guess I don't care about your feelings, I care about people never staying with abusive partners.

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