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A player with two arms on the back of another player, pushing them downwards, not looking at the ball but looking at the player they are fouling.
Any other circumstances it would be a foul.
That's one way of interpreting it though. The other is that Gabriel is leaving forward to head it back over his head.
It's a marginal call. You can't just decide you know exactly what happened and then claim its an outrage! Gabriel himself didn't even complain about it at the time.
You can only decide that two straight arms to the back of the head and neck impede Gabriel to move his head back. That's a foul in itself. Then you can also notice that they weren't straight at the beginning of the action and that all muscles on Gabriel's legs get more tense throughout because he is trying to resist the push.
He literally threw his hands up straight after...
Gabriel is doing what you said. Joelinton pushing down on his neck and back stops him from doing so. Ergo it's a foul (also a handball)
Joelinton doesn’t even play the ball. It would be one thing if he’d headed it but he the ball comes in and hits his arm.
Gabriel didn’t complain? You sure?
We’re not even mentioning that the first point of contact with the ball was that arm, clearly not in a natural position.
Handballs don't get called if the person who handled it doesn't score when attacking
What if he handballs it forward to someone in an offside position while fouling a defender...
The goal was farcical.
That's only for VAR reviews though isn't it? So if the ref caught it initially it would've been a handball? Not the reason it should've been called back by VAR but it should've been called initially.
Bracing himself for when Gabriel flings his head back.
Bruno should have been sent off but that's not a foul.
Per the FA if a player impedes another player, pushes or holds them it's a direct free kick. Joelinton pushes Gabriel down and impedes his ability to play the ball.
Also if
HANDLING THE BALL
For the purposes of determining handball offences, the upper boundary of the arm is in line with the bottom of the armpit. Not every touch of a player’s hand/arm with the ball is an offence.
It is an offence if a player:
deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, for example moving the hand/arm towards the ball touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation. By having their hand/arm in such a position, the player takes a risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised.
Joelinton has made himself unnaturally bigger by sticking his arms out to push Gabriel. So it's both a foul and a handball