rglullis

I didn't say "algorithm-based" voting. I said "people vote on anything they don't like, as if they would be training some algorithm".

there is no guarantee that they belong into the respective community.

The posts are about Emacs packages for using "AI agents" posted on the Emacs community. People are downvoting them only because "AI is bad", not because they particularly care about Emacs or the package at hand. It's an idiotic, self-righteous reason to downvote an article and it clearly shows that the people doing it have no relation to the communities where they are being posted.

One more reason to just block the community or even the instance.

I downvote the post only if the mod just removes my request, which I think is mod abuse.

Then block the community, report to the admin if the community is not respecting the instance rules and carry on with your day. Downvoting is just some passive-aggressive way of expressing your disapproval for the tastes/interests of the community members.

Take a look at these and tell me if these people are down voting because they are interested in the community or they are just trying to bury posts they don't like:

• https://lemvotes.org/post/communick.news/post/3897488

• https://lemvotes.org/post/communick.news/post/3839154

• https://communick.news/post/3822175

Part of the goal in transitioning to lemmy is to find new sources of content on lemmy.

I understand, but bootstrapping a whole new network is hard. Lemmy is reporting ~55k monthly active users and to do that it's even counting people who mere vote as an activity. Following the 1/9/90 rule, we should expect ~550 active posters here, which is simply not enough to sustain all the long tail of interests out there.

All I'm saying is that it would be better for everyone if we focused more on the active participation (posting content that is relevant to you and your interests) than a passive "let me play some slot machine and get a dopamine hit" that is browsing /all.

To continue with tortured metaphors: we can always go to the supermarket and cook our own food. If the content on the communities I'm interested is low, I can go to reddit and repost it here, or I can take a look at one my RSS feeds and see if I can find anything relevant, etc.

What? That people browse by /all and downvote everything they don't like? You can bet that this is standard practice. I've argued with a good number of people who treat the /all feed just as a regular feed and feel completely justified in downvoting anything they don't personally like.

I’d wager, without having access to the backend, that right now the majority of users browse by /all since most niche communities only have at best a handful of new posts a week, and that content is exhausted quickly.

Yeah, I could bet that is the case as well. But while I understand the justification for this behavior, I don't think that it makes for a healthy one. Browsing by /all because the content of my curated feed is stale seems like driving to a McDonalds after finishing a healthy dinner and I'm not feeling completely full.

You took my comment way too literally, then. What I am asking is for people that browse by /all to stop downvoting everything they see, as if there were trying to train some algorithm.

Phanpy (a client for Mastodon) is showing that we can have the customization and discoverability happening in-device. Decentralization would improve if we stop relying on this platform-centric approach and started building on generic ActivityPub servers.

Anyway, sorry for the tangent. I feel like that this generation of developers just keep making the mistakes from the past when they could instead learn from the elders.

Why can’t we expect that, though? True bad actors are surprisingly rare, and minor fauxpas forgiven.

Because the larger the number of people in the group, the more disagreement there will be about defines "bad actors" and "minor fauxpas". Right now in this thread people are arguing over whether or not these should be classified as NSFW, for instance.

that was being used an arbitrary example, and the actual goal with browsing /all is to find content you are interested in but previously unaware of

I know you meant meant linux just as an example, but what I am trying to understand is how much of an habit is it for you to get into content discovery mode that you worry about "doing it in public"?

It is 100% a bad habit inherited from Reddit, and this is one of the many reasons that I wish Fediverse developers stopped trying to emulate the closed platforms and started using ActivityPub as a powerful social graph to be shared by a single client.