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Ok so, I did a test. I'm confused. I need your input to figure out what's happening. I mix and match 3 DAC/AMPs with 2 IEMs. The question I have is that, if DAC/AMPs are supposed to be transparent, aka outputting a flat FR, what else can affect the tonal balance in the chain?

Gear list:
HIFIMAN EF600(Low Gain NOS), Cayin RU6 NOS, FiiO BTR7
Truthear Hexa, Moondrop Aria 2

I tried my best keeping all the volume same, vocals especially. The EF600 has A LOT more bass than the other two, but also having a much clearer instrument separation and clarity, by a great margin. BTR7 has somewhat good bass while RU6 has the least. RU6 has the least clarity as well.

I know this may sound obvious, "Duh, DAC/AMPs are different." But I'm wondering the root cause of this, like is it because they output different non-flat FR? Or is it the output impedance that's affecting the sound? I specifically used two IEMs with different setups, single DD and 1DD+3BA, the results are exactly the same so IDK if it is impedance. I'm curious what's behind this. I know RU6 has very bad THD so a lack of clarity can be explained. BTR7 has better THD on paper than EF600 but the actual perceived clarity is audibly lacking. It could be IMD or something else but the drastic difference of tonal balance is beyond my understandings.

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Hi! Just wondering what's the general consensus on Marble vs. Updated design versions of Sennheiser HD 600?

I'm asking this because I noticed that a lot of people prefer Marble one over the new revision.

Is there any audible difference in the sound? Did anyone measure both headphones with the new set of pads on the same measurement rig?

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Ok so, I did a test. I'm confused. I need your input to figure out what's happening. I mix and match 3 DAC/AMPs with 2 IEMs. The question I have is that, if DAC/AMPs are supposed to be transparent, aka outputting a flat FR, what else can affect the tonal balance in the chain?

Gear list:
HIFIMAN EF600(Low Gain NOS), Cayin RU6 NOS, FiiO BTR7
Truthear Hexa, Moondrop Aria 2

I tried my best keeping all the volume same, vocals especially. The EF600 has A LOT more bass than the other two, but also having a much clearer instrument separation and clarity, by a great margin. BTR7 has somewhat good bass while RU6 has the least. RU6 has the least clarity as well.

I know this may sound obvious, "Duh, DAC/AMPs are different." But I'm wondering the root cause of this, like is it because they output different non-flat FR? Or is it the output impedance that's affecting the sound? I specifically used two IEMs with different setups, single DD and 1DD+3BA, the results are exactly the same so IDK if it is impedance. I'm curious what's behind this. I know RU6 has very bad THD so a lack of clarity can be explained. BTR7 has better THD on paper than EF600 but the actual perceived clarity is audibly lacking. It could be IMD or something else but the drastic difference of tonal balance is beyond my understandings.

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I have a problem with my headphone. It is made from plastic parts that fidget and rub on each other, making crackling noise. The parts would grind on each other with the slightest movement of my head. All the headphones that I bought have this problem. All are plastic.

So does anyone with a metal headphone have this problem? I would like to know what type of build materials avoids this problem

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I know the go to for this sort of thing is typically earbuds, but are there any out there.

The person I'm buying them for as a gift typically goes through a pair every 6 months as they use them in the bath and eventually the steam seems to wear them down and they stop working.

So wondering if any were more resistant to this kind of use. And they have active noise cancelling too that would be a bonus.

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Lastly I bought AKG K702 and also i have Audio Technica M50X BT. I've read a lot of reviews about akg saying they are headphones with little bass (what I want), pristine sound full of space. Based on these reviews, I'm afraid there's something wrong with my akg, as they have more bass than the previously mentioned AT (especially more low bass), they have a lot of space of course, the mids and highs are less than at, they are a little muddy. Every hit on the drums has a big impact (more than an AT). The impression is similar to that of a movie trailer, where the sound is spatially bassy. This is a recent purchase, so it is possible that they still need to warm up (in AT warming up had a big effect), but I am afraid I got a defective unit. It is possible that this impression is somehow caused by the space, but I fear that something is wrong with the driver or the cable connection. Maybe someone knows something about this phenomenon, has some experience. Thank you in advance for any suggestions.

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So, Apple just posted this listing of their list of Mac Products that ship with High Impedence Headphone output including their lowest end M2 Mac Mini.

https://support.apple.com/en-in/HT212856

Anyone who have used these inbuilt dac/amps as well as dedicated high end dac/amps? If you have, what are the sonic differences for a dedicated dac/amp? is it worth it?

Have apple solved the Amplifier requirement for a regular consumer?

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Anyone using them? Any reviews for them

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Before I plug a brand new cable into an IEM or DAC/AMP, I always wipe down the contacts with rubbing alcohol to make sure they are clean. As I was going about this ritual with my new Kato, I noticed that the metal shroud on the 3.5mm termination felt slick with oil. At least a couple inches of the cable above it were also oily. I put the cable back in its bag and decided to use a Kinera Ace instead, because who the hell wants to use a cable covered in oil.

Although I've seen some reviews of TRN cables and cheap Aliexpress cables reporting oily residue, this is my first time experiencing the issue firsthand. I would have expected more from an IEM with a $190 MSRP.

I haven't seen anybody else mention this regarding the Kato, so did I just get unlucky?

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I recently purchased the Sony Linkbuds S and am very disappointed with their sound. The low end is good but the high end sounds almost muffled. Lacking the sound quality i’d expect from an earbud ago this price. I’ve also been having awful connectivity issues where one bud or the other keeps cutting out.

Does anybody know how the Sony C700 compare to the Linkbuds S? If i’m unsatisfied with these will I be unsatisfied with those? Should I bite the bullet and go for the Sony WF XM5? Or does anybody know of any solid earbuds with great sound for $200 USD or less?

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I'm a video editor and wanted to take my audio setup to another level, so I got my ATH-M50x (excellent sound, lousy comfort). I tried some Bose Quietcomfort 45s, looking for a balance between good sound and comfort (didn't work). I had headaches with both headphones because of the pressure of the headband, and although I tried to stretch it in both cases, I didn't manage to finish a full work day using either one. I usually wear headphones for more than 12 hours a day, so I just had to go back to my old Sony Mdr-zx110, they didn't have the best sound, but at least I didn't end up with sore ears and a sore head.

Which headphones would you have chosen? I would like to hear opinions from knowledgeable people on the subject, since I am a novice in everything related to sound.

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i purchased the sony wf xm4 and because i'm not an audiophile, i don't know much. i like the headphones, but the noise cancelling hurts my ears. i'm really sensitive to things like this so i accept it. i've just been using the headphones without the anc and i don't think i'd ever use the spatial audio mode. i either use them bluetooth or wired. i mostly will use them for studying or just sitting and listening to music, i don't think i'll walk around with them on (preference).

because the anc hurts my ears, is it pointless for me to have them? i never had ear/headphones before besides the wired earphones that come with the iphone. i feel terribly guilty for spending so much money on headphones if i'm not using one of it's greatest functions. again, i'm not an audiophile so i can't tell the difference between these headphones and my apple earbuds that come with my iphone.

i'm also afraid that in the summer (gets hot where i am) that i won't use them and will regret not getting earbuds because they'll be too hot to use.

i even am considering different headphones, but i'm afraid of anc hurting my ears. at one point i wanted airpods but i've heard they are bad for your ears (in comparsion to headphones) because they sit in your ear and i wouldn't want to wear earbuds for long time when i'm studying, but they would be nice if i'm walking around.

i have until january 1st to return the sony's because of my best buy's black friday deal.

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With all the hyperbolic reviews of gear, I find it hard sometimes to quantify how important various components of a hifi setup are to achieving the best sound possible.

What do you spend the bulk of your budget on, and what can you get away with skimping on until you've got extra cash lying around, to get those diminishing returns on the last few % of upgrade for your rig?

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The sound is good with music but in discord my friends sound like they are in a can or a bit far away if that make sense. and in games the sound is a bit weird to, is there anything i can do or are they only meant for music ???

And another thing is when i try to activate 5.1 or 7.1 if the headset even support it . my mic dont work ? but it works with stereo ?

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As the titles states, is the Dragonfly Cobalt enough for the Sennheiser 800 S?

I'm afraid that maybe a seperate AMP and even a different DAC would be recommended?

Please enlighten me, thanks!

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Do you guys think a headphone that cost £200+ over 10 years ago is still better than a cheap headphone brand new today?

I feel like the rate of quality increase isn't anywhere near as fast as something like smartphones & the old headphones would still be better? Anyone have any input on this?

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TL:DR for those who have no time or willingness to read the full review:

PROS CONS
Very good tuning with nice overall balance, good resolution, nice treble extension, lots of details and a great imaging A bit more sub-bass rumble would have been delicious, and the upper midrange could be a borderline forward for some people
Good build quality and nice stock cable Very few tips provided
Comfortable shells
Price

INTRODUCTION

Simgot has been under the spotlight for months already, and this thanks to some of their releases which were a true success (EA500, EW100P, EW2000, and so on).I am late on this review, but I asked Simgot if I could try something from them after reading many happy people spending great words about the EW200: I was curious to try these and I am lucky that they granted me a sample so that I could try this set and write a personal review of it.

Let’s get straight into the review since I can’t really wait to share what I think about these gems (and yes, this is already a little spoiler).

Disclaimer: the Simgot EW200 were sent from Simgot free of charge so that I could write a honest review. This review represents my personal opinion on the set and it is by no means a promotional or paid content.At the time of the review, the Simgot EW200 were on sale for about 39$ at Linsoul, Tmall and Aliexpress (they should also be available at your local Amazon website but it really depends on where you live).

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TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS

  • Driver Configuration → 1 x 10mm DD
  • Sensitivity → 126 dB
  • Impedance → 16±15% Ω
  • Frequency Response → 10 Hz – 50 kHz
  • Cable → 1,20m OFC high purity silver plated copper cable with 0.78mm 2-PIN connectors
  • Plug Type → L-Shaped gold plated 3,5mm jack connector

PACKAGING

The packaging is simple and with very few things inside:

  • The EW200
  • The detachable 3.5mm cable with 0.78mm PINs
  • One set of tips (S, M, L sizes)
  • A soft fabric carry pouch
  • User manual

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DESIGN, BUILD QUALITY AND DESIGN

From the images, the EW200 are very similar to the EW100P, but the latter is made of plastic while the EW200 are enclosed in glossy and mirrored metal shells. There are also some “high definition” notes on the faceplates among with the Simgot logo, which I’m not a fan of since the only logo would have been much more minimalistic, but they look rather elegant anyway.

The nozzle is of average size, which means that most tips will fit perfectly, and even though the shell is a fingerprint magnet the overall build quality and design are very good.If anything, it’s one of the heaviest IEMs around in this price range, but this is not a dealbreaker since the shape of the shell is not awkward and the fit, as we’ll discuss later, proved to be very secure.

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Lastly, there is one thing I don’t understand.
The EW200 use recessed 0.78mm PINs, just like Moondrop and Truthear, and it’s surprising that other models like the EM6L instead have a QDC connector. It would have been much better if Simgot used the same kind of connectors for their whole lineup, since one could buy one aftermarket cable and use the same on every IEM with no issues (sure, you can use EW200 cable on the EM6L, for example, but there’s a higher risk of damaging the cable or the IEMs since you’re not using a QDC aftermarket cable).

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CABLE

The stock cable is covered by a PVC sheath and it’s a very good cable considering the price of the IEMs. The chin slider used by Simgot on this cable is one of the nicest around, and if you have read some of my older reviews you know that I always search for chin sliders when evaluating an IEM (I know it could seem like a stupid thing, but it’s a kind of “accessory” that always turns out to be useful sooner or later.

Since the 2-PIN connector is recessed, this cable has a very thin plastic housing around the PINs, which means that this cable is basically usable on every IEM around.

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COMFORT AND ISOLATION

The EW200 are very comfortable, both because the shell doesn’t have sharp edges and because the nozzle is not annoyingly long or large. The provided tips are not bad but some will maybe prefer playing with some aftermarket tips in order to find a better fit. I have to say that the stock ones do the job for me, even though I will definitely spend some time playing with other aftermarket tips after finishing this review.

The isolation is not the strongest around but it’s more than enough to use them outside.

SOUND

GEAR USED FOR THE TEST

  • DAC: Topping E30
  • AMP: Topping L30
  • Mobile phones: Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, Xiaomi Mi A3
  • Dongle: Apple Type-C dongle, Truthear SHIO
  • Portable DAPs: Benjie S8/AGPTEK M30B
  • Other sources: Presonus AudioBox iONE, ElGato Wave XLR

Do they need an amplifier?

The EW200 don’t strictly need an amplifier to perform well, and they reach more than satisfying volumes even when plugged to weak sources.

Sound signature

The EW200 present some minor differences from the Harman 2019 target, from which they are inspired (they have also put the graph on the box for comparison), but they can be described as an Harman-tuned set.

Lows: this is a “quality over quantity” set, hands down. The sub-bass is slightly less present than on a pure-Harman set, but comes up in a very clean way when called for and it’s well controlled. Definitely not basshead’s material, the EW200 also surprise with a very tight and fast bass and a moderate texture quantity. Some people may feel the need for more thickness, but the intention of the tuner wasn’t making a thick-sounding or bassy set.

Mids:

The midrange is not recessed as on the many other sets in their price range. In fact, even though the lower midrange is not really deep or rich, the overall balance of the mids is surprisingly good, with frontal instrument reproduction, good layering and separation. Female vocals really shine and are very energetic, but those who are very sensitive will find them “borderline” sometimes.

Highs:

The highs are elevated, packing a lot of details, and I was really surprised by the quantity of small nuances portrayed by the EW200. Not only that: the treble is extension is great and there is a lot of air and sparkle, even though this comes at the cost of making the IEMs not suited for treble sensitive people.

Soundstage is generally wide with average depth and limited height perception. The imaging is above average for the price though, which is good news.

Simgot EW200 vs EPZ Q5

Let’s be brief: from a technical standpoint, the differences are very small and, if present, mostly attributable to tuning. The signature and the overall timbre are what really make a difference in this case, since the EPZ Q5 come out as a slightly more V-shaped set.The sub-bass, in fact, is more elevated, impactful and extended on the EPZ Q5, providing a more solid foundation than on the EW200. The Simgot EW200, on the other hand, takes the lead when it comes to the bass, with a slightly better bass response consisting in a bit more punch and tightness.The midrange is less recessed on the EW200 (even if not dramatically so) overall, but male and female vocals sound a tad better on the EW200 with more intimacy and energy.The upper treble has very good extension on both, but the EPZ Q5 are airier and even more open and spacious than the EW200, even though the EW200 somehow manage to sound a bit thicker and with a “cleaner” detail retrieval.When it comes to soundstage and imaging, the differences are very small, since the EPZ Q5 are marginally better in portraying a more spacious soundfield whereas the EW200 have better imaging capabilities.Both are comfortable and well built and both come with very nice cables. If I have to be nitpicky, the EPZ Q5 come with MMCX connectors, which tend to be less durable than 2-PIN connectors, and the EW200 benefit from the bigger shell insulating better from external noises (but again, this are really minor differences).Summing up, there’s no clear winner and it all comes down to personal preferences: if you listen to EDM, Metal or other genres that could benefit from a more elevated sub-bass and a slightly snappier treble, then the EPZ Q5 are the ones to get; if you instead tend to listen to vocal oriented tracks and prefer a more “rounded” set, or if you don’t like the MMCX connectors at all, then the EW200 may be the smarter choice.

Simgot EW200 vs CCA Duo

The CCA Duo are a very unique set in the KZ lineup, but this is not enough to beat Simgot’s EW200. The Duo are brighter, with an even leaner low-end, thinner midrange and less note weight overall. The EW200 are already somewhat bright, but the CCA Duo are even brighter due to the fact that the low-end is much less present than on the EW200 (especially in the sub-bass region) and also because the treble is more emphasized on KZ’s IEM.The overall tonal balance along with the great technical ability of the EW200 really make the Duo obsolete, and even though the latter has respectable technicalities and resolution, the EW200 come out as the overall best-sounding IEMs of this comparison.The build quality of the EW200 is better but the Duo are well built as well. The stock cable provided with the EW200 is better. Comfort is similar the same applies for the isolation.The EW200 are just better, period.

Simgot EW200 vs Moondrop LAN

The Moondrop LAN was overlooked by many due to the fact that most people classified it as an average set, but they are still a very balanced and well done set.Compared to the EW200, the Lan tend to be less bright overall, with just a tad more sparkle on the upper end even though the EW200 sound more extended and open overall.The EW200 also sound fuller in the low end and this translates into a better perception of the lower midrange that sounds slightly deeper and warmer while the Lan have a more neutral lower-midrange. The upper midrange is not very different, but sometimes the EW200 may be perceived as a tad more forward in that area.Imaging and soundstage are better on the EW200 whereas the overall timbre is a bit smoother on the Lan.Build quality is great on both sets even though the Lan feel a bit sturdier to the touch. EW200’s stock cable is better and has a chin slider (the Lan don’t have anything similar on their stock cable). Comfort is good on both sets, but the Moondrop are smaller and may be slightly easier to keep in the ears if you small ears.I’d pick the EW200 but it’s just because the Lan have a less pronounced sub-bass and this doesn’t fit my personal preferences.

FINAL THOUGHTS

The Simgot EW200 is an amazing set of IEMs, and it’s really hard to find serious flaws.Being nitpicky, one could ask for a bit more sub-bass rumble and a slightly less forward upper-midrange, but I won’t really complain for anything particular since they perform much better than expected considering their price.

Well done Simgot!

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