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Creator of Keras confirmed that the new version comes out in a few days. Keras becomes multi-backend again with support for PyTorch, TensorFlow and JAX. Personally, I'm excited to be able to try JAX without having to deep dive into documentation and entire ecosystem. What about you?

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[–] narex456@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (7 children)

TLDR: No, they are not officially planning to deprecate TF. Yes they are still actively developing TF. No, that doesn't fill me with much confidence, coming from Google, especially while they are also developing Jax.


Just searched this again and kudos, I can't find anything but official Google statements that they are continuing support for TF in the foreseeable future. For a while people were doom-saying so confidently that Google is completely dropping TF for JAX that I kinda just took it on blind faith.


All that said: #TF REALLY COULD GET DEPRECATED SOON Despite their insistence that this won't happen, Google is known for deprecating strong projects with bright futures with little/no warning. Do not take the size of Tensorflow as evidence that the Goog is going to stand by it. Especially when they are actively developing a competing product in the niche.

fwiw, it is also the current fad in tech to make high level decisions abruptly without proper warning to engineers. It really does mean almost nothing when a company's engineers are enthusiastically continuing their support of a product.

TF is just not on solid ground.

[–] Relevant-Yak-9657@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Also, JAX is not official a google product, but rather a research product. So on paper, Tensorflow is google's official framework for deep learning.

[–] AuspiciousApple@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

What obligation does Google have to not deprecate tf? Google abandons projects all the time.

[–] Relevant-Yak-9657@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would also like to hear about some programming frameworks (or languages) that Google has abandoned before.

[–] narex456@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Noop (Language)

AngularJS (Framework)

The latter was quite popular as a JavaScript web framework. There may be more examples, I'm not an expert at hating google.

[–] Relevant-Yak-9657@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

But saying that it dropped Angularjs is like saying that google dropped tensorflow. They just rebooted it like tensorflow right? Thanks for Noop though. No idea that it existed lol.

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