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Creator of Keras confirmed that the new version comes out in a few days. Keras becomes multi-backend again with support for PyTorch, TensorFlow and JAX. Personally, I'm excited to be able to try JAX without having to deep dive into documentation and entire ecosystem. What about you?

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[–] mfs619@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Keras broke the ice for me. The design of NNs used to take me a while to understand. It felt mechanic and meaningless. I was struggling hard to understand why adding or subtracting layers would help or hurt my models. I was trudging through tf documentation and honestly… I was very close to giving up.

I built my first ANN, got better with keras, graduated to tf, built my first U-net and got more confidence. I think anyone that really criticizes keras doesn’t understand that it is like criticizing training wheels for a bike.

You gotta learn to walk before you can run. You gotta learn baby nets before you are building monster segmentation models on recurrent convolutional neural nets. It takes time to understand the concepts and data flow.

[–] unpublishedmadness@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

training wheels are horrible btw

it's much better to train kids with "pedal-less" bikes and then graduate them to pedals without training wheels, much easier to adapt to gaining balance etc.

[–] elehman839@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah, Keras was sort of useful and sort of annoying, but training wheels just suck. What's worst is when your kid falls while using training wheels. One a balance bike, you know you're unstable. On training wheels, your kid has false faith and isn't prepared for the tipover... especially if your kid is, at that moment, entranced with your scintillating lecture about the superiority of PyTorch.

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