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    [–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (31 children)

    Na, humans are just really good at making other living beings suffer, no matter the system. Communism is certainly not a pleasant system to imagine, however it is not inherently worse or better than others that we know.

    [–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago (30 children)

    What, genuinely, is unpleasant to imagine about a Stateless, Classless, Moneyless society? I've only ever heard people say that Communism sounds great in theory but for some reason or another can't work in practice, or support for both. I've never once heard that Communism itself is unpleasant in theory.

    [–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (13 children)

    What, genuinely, is unpleasant to imagine about a Stateless, Classless, Moneyless society?

    That attempts to implement it invariably lead to shit, apparently.

    [–] jmankman@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Do you know what most of the Communist countries that "invariably went to shit" had in common? One of the most powerful, red fearing countries in the world fucking with them relentlessly, despite the "fact" that "they would have failed if left to their own devices"

    [–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

    Yeah, that's not a valid argument. Red fearing countries shouldn't have been a problem if the ideology actually had been a good one. Communists were trying to spread the ideology just as much as others were trying to stop it.

    The whole idea just sucks donkey balls and you're having a weird nostalgia moment by proxy if you want to rewind the world back to it.

    [–] 20hzservers@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    So when you see a group of kids building a sand castle together on the beach it's ok to just walk over and kick it over right?

    [–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

    That analogue is so off the mark that I don't what you're trying to say. Are you implying that communist countries were building their societies with absolute peace and non-communists started all the trouble?

    [–] 20hzservers@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

    Not in every case but you're the one painting with a broad brush not me.

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