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[–] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 18 points 11 months ago (12 children)

Is this not a fairly cut and dry discriminatory firing case?

[–] blargerer@kbin.social 16 points 11 months ago (11 children)
[–] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (10 children)

And when/where/to who.

Edit: it states in the article what she said, which is that Israel should not exist.

[–] jadero@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago (4 children)

It also says when (while she was not at work).

My opinion is that really shouldn't matter what you've done, if you weren't on the clock, your employer has nothing to say about it.

I can see exceptions when you are misrepresenting yourself as acting in an official capacity or if you are clearly "the public face" of the company (like an on-air personality or public spokesperson). On the face of it, none of that applies here.

[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Most professionals are expected to uphold the standards of their profession, whether on the clock or not, and that typically includes not bringing the profession into disrepute. That is why doctors, nurses, etc., who spread misinformation about COVID-19 vaccination were disciplined.

[–] jadero@lemmy.ca 0 points 11 months ago

Fair enough. As I said, I can see room for exceptions, but the more control your employer has over your free time, the less free that time is. I'm not interested in going back to the days when a person could be fired for driving the wrong make of car.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Imagine someone spends their weekends harassing gay people then during the week they work at a gay bar

Do you think the clientele would want to be served by them?

Who you are outside of work directly impacts the business

[–] jadero@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

I think it's quite clear that, in that case, the server is the face of that business. What happens if instead, the person is working in the back room keeping the books?

[–] pbjamm@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That is a tough one, as it would also prevent employers from firing nazis or J6 insurrectionists as long as they keep it off the clock. But their bad actions can reflect poorly on the employer if they become public.

Part of me thinks what they do on their own time is none of the employers business, and another part of me thinks fuck those nazis, they deserve nothing but scorn.

conflicted.

[–] jadero@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

I disagree. If I'm a welder in the back of the shop, nothing I do on my own time reflects positively or negatively on my employer as long as I leave my employer out of it. That some busybody wants to make it my employers business is unreasonable and unfair. And that goes double for the employer who decides to make it their business.

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So if I run around shouting slurs in my own time, should I be doxxed and reported to my employer?

[–] jadero@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely not. What business is it of mine who you work for?

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago
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