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How to persuade people around me switch to Matrix/Element? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Hello fellow c/privacy members.

I'm not new to privacy related things but I had a hard time persuading my family members and friends to switch to Matrix/Element. It is a reponse to UK's Online Security Bill and Investigative Powers Act that may soon in effect.

While it is just a preperation and planning in case those actually became law, I already face resistance from them. When I ask them would they switch, their first reaction is "Why one more app?" then follows with "That's cumbersome." or "I don't want to learn a new app." and suggest something more popular like Line, Telegram or Discord. Sometimes they would "Install WhatsApp because X is on there and he/she won't install one more app just for you."

What can I do to persuade them to use a new platform? Thanks in advance.

EDIT: I think I should elebroate more of what Online Security Bill and Investigative Powers Act does[1]. As far as I understand, OSB will break E2EE by require scanning data on client device, like CSAM but much more generic. IPA requires companies to submit security funcition to the government for approval before releasing, and disable such feature upon request. Apple[2], Single[3] and WhatsApp made the announancment of exiting the UK market totally or partically if two were signed into law.

[1] https://web.archive.org/web/thenextweb.com/news/uk-investigatory-powers-act-default-surveillance-devices-privacy
[2] https://web.archive.org/web/www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2023/07/21/apple-threatens-to-pull-facetime-and-imessage-from-the-uk
[3] https://web.archive.org/web/20230809125823/https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-65301510#2023-08-09T12:57:48+00:00

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[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I set up a home server with a litany of bridges.
I show them all my chats from multiple platforms in one app.
They ask me for an account.

[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Got a how to for #1? Sounds like you hid a lot of complexity in that 1 step.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You can also try to find an instance that already does bridging. For Finnish citizens, pikaviestin.fi is a good option, but they don't provide accounts to non-finns.

But no, I do not have a guide for setting this up. But you set up a homeserver, with a domain you can commit to, and once that is working, configure whatever bridges you like using their respective docs.

And yes, it is complex. Matrix is the most complicated thing I've ever self-hosted. But it wasn't untenable, and it's been very low maintenance.

[–] shadow01@lemmy.legally-berlin.de 2 points 1 year ago

Matrix ansible playbook

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