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Canadian MPs Want to Verify People Watching Internet Porn. They Admit They’re Not Sure How Their Law Would Actually Work. (pressprogress.ca)
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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

At this point, "let kids watch porn" is almost worth the hassle as a contrarian rebuke. The US has conservatives flipping out over the barest hint of sexual information reaching... teenagers. Everywhere has conservatives mumbling their way toward spying on adults to stop the apparently unprecedented possibility of children seeing boobs.

A contra-positive "what are you fucking worried about?!" is so much easier to rally than some wishy-washy "yes, but--" nitpicking. Like it's on us to address these people's insane goals. The nature of bad faith is that there is no right answer. They're just picking something vaguely gross to minimize dissent - and to easily slander anyone who speaks up.

So fuck it. I'm not terribly bothered if kids see gross shit on the internet. It doesn't need to be illegal, for sites to keep undesirable content hidden by default or excluded entirely. The US has no laws against being an outright Nazi, but on any site not run by and for Nazis, that shit is not welcome. If logged-out Twitter users are one click from seeing what furry smut peddlers post, apparently that's not the end of the world. Pretty far from the worst thing Twitter's ever done.

I'm short on reasons not to tell people - big whoop, and mind your damn kids.

[–] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's not even contrarian for me, I think children viewing porn fundamentally improves society provided they receive appropriate context through discussions with trusted adults (like parents). And those discussions only happens when people become more comfortable talking about these things, which restrictions do not help at all.

I also completely support children seeing video footage of executions, dead bodies and the severely malnourished with a trusted adult (like a teacher) to provide context. This improves society, and is how I learned about various things, like the horrors of the Holocaust, accurately.

[–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well... If u'r talking abt it from the perspective of sex ed, porn isn't quite it. If porn is treated as sex ed, then that can be massively dangerous- porn without consensual sex, extreme body dimensions, which includes large dicks, big breasts n so on. Normal ppl sex doesn't work like that.

For education abt something like the Holocaust n so on, dead bodies, mutilations, etc. can have a traumatic effect on kids. Sure, while they need to be taught abt this, they should definitely not be shown these graphics till their teens at least.

[–] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

I'm not treating it as sex Ed at all. It's entertainment, like an action movie or something. Not at all realistic. Which is why it's so important that trusted adults explain this to them.

And yes, I want them to be a bit traumatized by the Holocaust. I agree in teens is where it is appropriate, but it is still traumatizing. That's the point.