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[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 50 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (21 children)

In this topic: people who underestimate the importance of infrastructure and low crime and low corruption.

1st answer: developing countries don't have enough infrastructure to benefit from wealth. Not enough trains to move raw goods around, not enough roads or not enough electricity to do anything even if those good arrived.

2nd level: when governments get the money for such projects, they steal it from the people through corruption. See Turkey and all the invested dollars on earthquake-proofing buildings, it was all stolen in ways people didn't understand or realize until the earthquake happened.

3rd level: even if the government didn't steal the money, criminals can. Even in the USA we deal with transformer thieves (transformers are bundles of copper that convert long distance high voltage power into short distance power for houses). These copper bundles can sell for $$$$ in the black market.

So even if #1 and #2 miraculously happen, a criminal will steal the infrastructure and they gotta start all over again.


Everyone knows how to make cities more advanced and better. Build highways, trains, mass transit. Invest into freight (trains or boats). Invest into education so that people can run these machines.

And many 3rd world countries advance forward. But it's harder to do than it looks.

[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (17 children)

developing countries don't have enough infrastructure to benefit from wealth

It’s even worse: they only have the infrastructure to allow us to profit from their wealth. Colonial powers made sure the railroad between the mines and the ports are top notch, so their mineral riches can be carted off efficiently to the metropole.

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You can see this in painful clarity watching the Argentinian railroads. Created and operated by the UK originally, it has a clear shape of a funnel from all over the country towards the main port city, Buenos Aires.

[–] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

That's a general pattern though - sea transport is the most efficient, thus railroads will tend to integrate around important ports. It applies even in the UK.

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