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How to persuade people around me switch to Matrix/Element? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Hello fellow c/privacy members.

I'm not new to privacy related things but I had a hard time persuading my family members and friends to switch to Matrix/Element. It is a reponse to UK's Online Security Bill and Investigative Powers Act that may soon in effect.

While it is just a preperation and planning in case those actually became law, I already face resistance from them. When I ask them would they switch, their first reaction is "Why one more app?" then follows with "That's cumbersome." or "I don't want to learn a new app." and suggest something more popular like Line, Telegram or Discord. Sometimes they would "Install WhatsApp because X is on there and he/she won't install one more app just for you."

What can I do to persuade them to use a new platform? Thanks in advance.

EDIT: I think I should elebroate more of what Online Security Bill and Investigative Powers Act does[1]. As far as I understand, OSB will break E2EE by require scanning data on client device, like CSAM but much more generic. IPA requires companies to submit security funcition to the government for approval before releasing, and disable such feature upon request. Apple[2], Single[3] and WhatsApp made the announancment of exiting the UK market totally or partically if two were signed into law.

[1] https://web.archive.org/web/thenextweb.com/news/uk-investigatory-powers-act-default-surveillance-devices-privacy
[2] https://web.archive.org/web/www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2023/07/21/apple-threatens-to-pull-facetime-and-imessage-from-the-uk
[3] https://web.archive.org/web/20230809125823/https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-65301510#2023-08-09T12:57:48+00:00

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[–] Boinketh@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago (8 children)

The problem with Matrix is that it sucks. It's so comically laggy that you'd be able to have a conversation more efficiently in a Lemmy comments section than in a Matrix room. Consequences of trying to make a scalable backend for a real-time app in fucking Python, I suppose.

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm planning to use Conduit[1] which is written in Rust instead of Synapse. I belive this will consume less resources but have no idea will it run smooth or not.

[1] https://gitlab.com/famedly/conduit

[–] kaya@eviltoast.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Afaik conduit is even more beta than denderite, personally I would not use it after seeing how buggy experience friends had with it

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I haven't tried yet. Dendrite follows the micro services architecture which I don't need and increases management work. That's why I choose Conduit.

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