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Amazon warns workers to come back into the office::This week, a reminder email was sent to employees who didn't work on-site at least three times a week.

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[–] DTFpanda@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (28 children)

I haven't looked into why they're doing this, so maybe this insight is obvious and well known, but I imagine it has to do with the fact that they spend a shitton of money on these spaces/leases that they can't easily get out of, so their way of dealing with it is by forcing employees to use it. My company is going through a similar situation, but they're accepting the responsibility of eating the cost of the office space lease with several years left on the contract and don't even try to entice people to use it. "Come in if you want, it's going to be here for awhile!" is about as far as it goes, haha. Fuck Amazon.

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I know people who work in IT at places they have installed surveillance on wfh machines and the stats show that people really aren’t working as hard from home.

I’ve been wfh with optional in-office work for over a decade and I know it can be done well. But I know there are a lot of people that you have to stay on top of who would be fine in an office.

So I don’t think these companies are going back into the office for no reason.

That said, I think this will backfire because the best employees will find work at places where they can work remote unless compensated far better than they can get at remote shops.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the stats show that people really aren’t working as hard from home.

Are they still getting done what needs to be done in an appropriate amount of time? Because that should be the only metric that matters for WFH employees as far as I can tell. "You aren't working hard enough" is "Protestant Work Ethic" capitalist bullshit.

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Determining what people should be able to get done is not simple and will always be imprecise. In a lot of professional jobs, you aren’t paid to get x done. You’re paid to get as much s as you reasonably can during working hours and that’s nearly impossible to determine when everyone is remote.

So when everyone who works for you works remote, there are some tough situations that come up. The biggest one is if someone isn’t getting many tasks completed over a free weeks. Is it because they aren’t working or because a lot of roadblocks really did come up or is it because they aren’t really working? It’s easier to give that person the benefit of the doubt if they’ve been at the office and you can see them working.

I’ve worked remote for over a decade so I know it’s possible for a team to get work done, but it would definitely be easier and more effective to manage people in office. And some people who have fallen behind may have been given more leniency in office than they get while wfh. So I get why some businesses don’t want to deal with that. I think they’ll lose out on the best workers unless they’re willing to pay significantly more for them to work in office though. But we’ll see how it goes.

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