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Shell Is Immediately Closing All Of Its California Hydrogen Stations | The oil giant is one of the big players in hydrogen globally, but even it can't make its operations work here.::The oil giant is one of the big players in hydrogen globally, but even it can't make its operations work here. All seven of its California stations will close immediately.

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[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago (20 children)

https://www.airproducts.com/equipment/hydrogen-onsite-generators

Uhh there are tons of companies making these now. You can literally drop one of these in the middle of nowhere running off solar, pulling hydrogen from the atmosphere.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 5 points 9 months ago (19 children)

running off solar

Because solar is free?

Guys, we can stop trying to solve climate change, we already have free energy!

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (18 children)

Are...you suggesting solar isn't free energy?

[–] Patch@feddit.uk 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Solar costs whatever it costs to buy, install and maintain a solar PV farm, which is not nothing.

If you're going to build a solar PV farm, you're obviously going to want to sell the power you generate in whatever way is most profitable.

At the moment, it's still magnitudes more profitable to sell solar back to the grid than it is to feed it into an inefficient hydrolysis plant, create a load of hydrogen and oxygen, and then move it by leaky tanker somewhere to sell it.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

These are designed to be setup and turned into fueling stations, not creating the hydrogen and shipping it elsewhere. You still need substations near superchargers, which requires a lot of power lines to be run. In the middle of nowhere they're pointless to build.

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