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A place to discuss positive changes that can make work more equitable, and to vent about current practices. We are NOT against work; we just want the fruits of our labor to be recognized better.
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- All workers must be paid a living wage for their labor.
- Income inequality is the main cause of lower living standards.
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- Higher wages for underpaid workers.
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Then they're the owning class. The middle class has no coherent definition AFAIK.
It's probably true for most of them. Accumulating more wealth to buy a house to rent out counts as accumulating power to exert it as a rent-seeker.
Do you have money in the bank? That brings you some rate? Then by your definition you are “speaking to exert power”
Are you telling me that I'm not dependant on my wage?
No, I am saying that if you have money in the bank, then according to your logic you are “exerting power” the same way as your have accused rich people do.
The main point I am trying to make that if you say that you divide people on working and not, then Elon Musk fits working category.
Just because he does not have to work, but he still does, speaks only positively about him.
Yeah, I kind of do. If the bank I deposit my money at, gives loans out to weapons companies, then the money that gts made by war pays my interest. However: I don't really have a choice if I want to survive after having retired. Also: if you look at wealth distribution, then the comparison gets more and more ridiculous.
Good thing that's not what I'm doing. The "working class" is the set of people who have nothing to sell, but their labour to survive. Here's a great channel which explains why this distinction is important
Tha only tracks if A) work is inherently good, or B) the work he's doing is actually beneficial (considered that he actually works). I don't agree with both (or ever all three) points.
Yes you do. Cash, gold, bitcoins...
As with any such definitions, there are gradations. Plus you will not die if you stop working, you will just live very poor.
That can be said about any work.
Lol
Even if: Elon Musk would be so far on the not-working-class end of the spectrum.
lol, u fr?
Yes. I'm not making moral statements. I'm just stating what's the "working class".