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[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 6 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Are you telling me that I'm not dependant on my wage?

[–] MxM111@kbin.social -3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

No, I am saying that if you have money in the bank, then according to your logic you are “exerting power” the same way as your have accused rich people do.

The main point I am trying to make that if you say that you divide people on working and not, then Elon Musk fits working category.

Just because he does not have to work, but he still does, speaks only positively about him.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

if you have money in the bank, then according to your logic you are “exerting power”

Yeah, I kind of do. If the bank I deposit my money at, gives loans out to weapons companies, then the money that gts made by war pays my interest. However: I don't really have a choice if I want to survive after having retired. Also: if you look at wealth distribution, then the comparison gets more and more ridiculous.

if you say that you divide people on working and not, then Elon Musk fits working category.

Good thing that's not what I'm doing. The "working class" is the set of people who have nothing to sell, but their labour to survive. Here's a great channel which explains why this distinction is important

Just because he does not have to work, but he still does, speaks only positively about him.

Tha only tracks if A) work is inherently good, or B) the work he's doing is actually beneficial (considered that he actually works). I don't agree with both (or ever all three) points.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

However: I don’t really have a choice if I want to survive after having retired.

Yes you do. Cash, gold, bitcoins...

The “working class” is the set of people who have nothing to sell, but their labour to survive.

As with any such definitions, there are gradations. Plus you will not die if you stop working, you will just live very poor.

Tha only tracks if A) work is inherently good, or B) the work he’s doing is actually beneficial (considered that he actually works). I don’t agree with both (or ever all three) points.

That can be said about any work.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 months ago

Yes you do. Cash, gold, bitcoins...

Lol

As with any such definitions, there are gradations

Even if: Elon Musk would be so far on the not-working-class end of the spectrum.

you will not die if you stop working, you will just live very poor.

lol, u fr?

That can be said about any work.

Yes. I'm not making moral statements. I'm just stating what's the "working class".