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TLDR: StartAllBack, ExplorerPatcher and some other projects are being blocked on 24H2.

One more reason to switch to Linux

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[–] TCGM@lemmy.world -4 points 7 months ago (8 children)

I'll switch to Linux when Visual Studio Community (NOT Code) works on it and I never have to touch the command line ever again.

[–] swordsmanluke@programming.dev 5 points 7 months ago (4 children)

As someone who genuinely loves the command line - I'd like to know more about your perspective. (Genuinely. I solemnly swear not to try to convince you of my perspective.)

What about GUIs appeals to you over a command line?

I like the CLI because it feels like a conversation with the computer. I explain what I want, combining commands as necessary, and the machine responds.

With GUIs I feel like I'm always relearning tools. Even something as straightforward as 'find and replace' has different keyboard shortcuts in most of the text-editing apps I use - and regex support is spotty.

Not to say that I think the terminal is best for all things. I do use an IDE and windowing environments. Just that - when there are CLI tools I tend to prefer them over an equivalent GUI tool.

Anyway, I'm interested to hear your perspective- what about GUIs works better for you? What about the CLI is failing you?

Thank you!

[–] TCGM@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for your reasonable reply and question! As for what I love about UI, it's simple;

I don't have to remember what to enter, just the pathway to get there.

With command line, you have to remember commands, arguments, syntax, and gods forbid you enter something wrong. It won't work.

But with a (decently designed) UI, you merely have to remember the path you took to get to wherever you want to go, what buttons to press, what mouse movements to execute.

As someone with a limited attention span and energy to do things, this is a lifesaver.

As for Visual Studio, that's a development preference. Code is too different for me to be comfortable in it, and relies on command line too much.

[–] swordsmanluke@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago

Thank you for responding! I really liked this bit

with a (decently designed) UI, you merely have to remember the path you took to get to wherever you want to go, what buttons to press, what mouse movements to execute.

I think that's very insightful. I certainly have developed muscle-memory for many of my most-frequent commands in the CLI or editor of choice.

I agree about Visual Studio as a preference. I've used (or at least tried) dozens of IDE setups down the years from vi/emacs to JetBrains/VS to more esoteric things like Code Bubbles. I've found my personal happy place but I'd never tell someone else their way of working was wrong.

(Except for emacs devs. (Excepting again evil-mode emacs devs - who are merely confused and are approaching the light.)) ;)

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