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[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 72 points 7 months ago (33 children)

I would be interested how much of the "there is just no demand for EVs in the US" narrative is either:

  • manufactured consent, pumped out on all corporate owned media to foster demand for oil
  • the fact that US companies refuse to make affordable EVs, and the demand is plateauing only for luxury cars

The problem with the cheap Chinese EV import is that once you're hooked on that, your domestic EV industry will not develop, which makes it reasonable to guard against. Then again, you actually have to whip your domestic production into shape. I think the US has the whole subsidy game upside down - governments should subsidize societally positive actions even if companies are currently not doing them, like cheap electric cars in this case; and not just make subsidies that target specific companies and sectors to throw government money at them and let their CEOs do whatever they like.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 35 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (18 children)

There's plenty of demand for EVs here, just very little demand for $40,999 starting MSRP, fuckhuge, unreliable, unrepairable, iPad-dash, "luxury" crossovers with trim packages nobody wants that every company in the US market wants to shove down our throats. Show me an EV equivalent of something like the Mirage made by a company whose track record doesn't look like a midtown Baltimore backstreet (looking at the Chevy Spark), isn't price gouged to hell by dealerships, and I'll take my ass down wherever I can pick one up

[–] makuus@pawb.social 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It’s interesting that you’d mention “trim packages“ here, because that’s one of the things that’s turned me off of one manufacturer.

I was seriously looking into an Ioniq 6 at one point. It’s got a look only a weirdo like me can love. However, it starts at a decent price—even if it goes up quickly from there—gets some good positive reviews, and has some decent performance. But, I like the things that I have in my current car, like a sunroof, heated seats, and a heated steering wheel. Well, in order to get those, I have to step up to 20-inch wheels, which eats into the range by almost 50 miles—or some 15%.

Can I get the premium trim line without the monster truck wheels? No. Can I get the heated seats and steering wheel (I’ll forego the sunroof) on the lower trim line with smaller wheels and more range? No. And, they’re not the only ones. For some reason, all these EV manufacturers think they have to put bigger wheels on the premium lines, and thereby kill range.

And I just don’t get it…

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 5 points 7 months ago

It's because the things you don't want wouldn't sell if they were separate items, and those are the things which justify the large incremental price. I mean only an idiot would pay extra for wheels that cut the range by 15% unless it was bundled with other things.

They think they can upsell you to buy a load of things you don't want. In this case though, that greed cost them a sale.

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